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OpenAI didn’t copy Scarlett Johansson’s voice for ChatGPT, records show

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Re: OpenAI didn’t copy Scarlett Johansson’s voice for ChatGPT, records show

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Post by skilled »

tibbon wrote: post #508

Is someone's voice their IP? Is it more-valuable property because they are famous? What type of IP? Trademark? Without their name and image in combination, is a voice/likeness actually defensible? Training a computer to have any actual-human sounding voice is likely to almost match someone's voice. I haven't taken an IP class since 2004, but I'm not sure if there's a real case here is there?

Nah, that’s too broad of an angle. I mean, you wouldn’t take Barack Obama’s voice and start making video tutorials with it.

“My fellow gamers…”

But what if it’s worse than just video tutorials, something vile? You simply wouldn’t want to have your voice associated with that.

Re: OpenAI didn’t copy Scarlett Johansson’s voice for ChatGPT, records show

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Post by Matticus_Rex »

jonathankoren wrote: post #144
eps wrote: post #113

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Unless they can clearly demostrate reproducing the voice from raw voice actor recordings, this could be just a parallel construction to cover their asses for exactly this sort of case.

Doesn't matter. Waits v Frito Lay

That's an impersonation of a parody song in his style. This is a voice actor who has a voice that's kinda similar to ScarJo and kinda similar to Rashida Jones but not quite either one doing something different.

Cases are not a spell you can cast to win arguments, especially when the facts are substantially different.

Re: OpenAI didn’t copy Scarlett Johansson’s voice for ChatGPT, records show

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Post by themikesanto »

kylebenzle wrote: post #522
lumost wrote: post #513

Unless they can point to a voice actor that they did copy. It will be very difficult for them to prove that it wasn't trained to replicate Scarlett Johansen. Was the model trained on movies? were annotators instructed to compare to the movie "Her" - lots of ways to see this become problematic. The fact that Sam Altman was requesting a licensing deal days before launch would suggest that they had a known problem that…

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Re: OpenAI didn’t copy Scarlett Johansson’s voice for ChatGPT, records show

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Post by kylebenzle »

Uehreka wrote: post #520
ActionHank wrote: post #487

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This will be used as a template by the entertainment industry to screw over so many people.

How? This kind of thing is already illegal. If I’m producing a commercial for Joe’s Hot Dogs, and I hire a voice actor who sounds like Morgan Freeman, and he never says “I’m Morgan Freeman” but he’s the main voice in the commercial and the cartoon character he’s voicing looks like Morgan Freeman… well, many consumers will be confused into thinking Morgan Freeman likes Joe’s Hot Dogs, and that’s a violation of Morgan…

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Re: OpenAI didn’t copy Scarlett Johansson’s voice for ChatGPT, records show

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Post by m_ke »

stavros wrote: post #526
m_ke wrote: post #517

Earlier quoted context omitted.

1. The sky voice currently available in the app is a different model from the one they presented (one is pure TTS, the new one in GPT-4o is a proper multi modal model that can do speech in and out end to end) 2. Look at these images and tell me they didn't intend to replicate "Her": https://x.com/michalwols/status/1792709377528647995

Which one are we saying sounds like Johansson? I'm talking about the TTS voice in the app, is everyone else talking about the multimodal voice from the 4o demos? Also, whether they *intended* to replicate Her and whether they *did* in the end are very different.

This one: https://youtu.be/vgYi3Wr7v_g?feature=shared&t=22

compare it to: https://youtu.be/GV01B5kVsC0?feature=shared&t=125

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Post by beeboobaa3 »

IncreasePosts wrote: post #521
zug_zug wrote: post #481

When I first used ChatGPT's voice assistant's I was like "Wow, this one is clearly Scarlett Johansson from Her, they even copy her mannerisms." No amount of unverifiable "records" (just pieces of paper provided by somebody who has a multimillion dollar incentive to show one outcome) will change my mind. But if they can produce the actual voice artist I'd be more open-minded.

They voice artist put out a statement through her lawyer. She also stated her voice has never been compared to Scarlett in real life by anyone who knows her.

This is just Scarlett Johansson trying to destroy some small voice actor. I greatly dislike what OpenAI is doing, but this is just ridiculous.

Re: OpenAI didn’t copy Scarlett Johansson’s voice for ChatGPT, records show

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Post by flumpcakes »

khazhoux wrote: post #142

The press says Sky voice is indistinguishable from Scarlett Johansson, but I hear zero similarities to her voice in any of her films. Besides, of course, that it is a standard-issue unaccented white anglo female.

Sounds only like Scarlett Johansson to me. I watch a lot of TV and film and can't think of a single person it sounds like other than Scarlett Johansson. I think the same would be true for most people not in the US. The tweets (one referencing Scarlett Johansson by name, and one from Sam just saying "her" are also confirming my bias here.)

In all honesty, I thought this was just another thing AI vacuumed up without thought. Weird how when it's a "real" celebrity's work that gets put through the AI sausage machine people get skittish.

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Post by thepasswordis »

In the movie “Her”, there is a smart AI assistant that you can talk to and is friendly and has good natural language.

How is it not obvious to everybody that this is what Sam and the OpenAI people are referencing with their tweets?

Scarlett Johanssons voice is certainly pleasing, but it feels misplaced to assume that the voice is the important thing here and not everything else.

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