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Re: Meta Horizon OS

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No one is dead on a hill. If anything, not using VR makes you much more "alive". A real misapplication of this metaphor.

once again, I feel very sorry for people who haven't enriched their lives with VR experiences and skills building. No different than people who poo-pooed computers and internet

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Re: Meta Horizon OS

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"outsourcing" is a broad term. Building your widgets in China is also outsourcing.

That's the point though. Manufacturing, logistics, payroll, research, advertising, legal services, ... -- outsourcing certain functions to specialist, often (but not always) cheaper or more efficient companies is a typical business practice. The term is broadly applicable and used where ever this is the case. Since there are well-known business and organizational risks associated with outsourcing, it is conspicuous t…

Migrate to the cloud has specific meanings. How would you even adequately define it using "outsourcing"? That's just one part of it.

Re: Meta Horizon OS

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Shades of Apple licensing the Mac OS to clone hardware vendors in 1995 - 1997. It seems like Meta will be controlling the software experience quite closely, just like Apple did back in the day. There’s an important difference though: Apple made all their money on Mac hardware margins which the nimble clone vendors could undercut. Whereas for Meta, the Quest hardware has always been sold at breakeven or even as a loss…

> So there’s no kind of existential danger to Quest here, but it remains to be seen if the hardware licensees can bring anything relevant to the table either. Why would I, as a potential hardware maker, wish to compete in a market where the existing main producer is a mega wealthy entity that is already dumping product below cost and is capable of doing so indefinitely?

Seems like without some kind of software revenue sharing model it doesn't make sense. These things are consoles -- sold a cost or below cost in order to make it back on software sales.

Re: Meta Horizon OS

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I think you're overindexing on "2D." The Play store is full of flat apps, designed for phones and tablets. There are a gajillion of them, and FB wants them in their headsets. It's not about not wanting competition - it's about wanting people to have more than 100 apps available when they use a Meta headset.

But why would I as a user want to use those flat apps in VR, when I already have a phone and a tablet?

Is that what the majority of Vision Pro users are doing in VR? Projecting flat monitors around.

Re: Meta Horizon OS

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post #179

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I don't need an account to use my monitor or my TV. Why do I need one for a VR Headset?

Because these aren’t dumb headsets that just plug into your PC. These are standalone headsets that handle the whole thing — they aren’t just a display and controllers, they take the role of the PC too. So, needing an account for these is more comparable to needing an account to use Steam

I don't need Steam to run my games or to pipe data into my Valve Index either.

It's still unclear to me why an account is needed. I mean, I get the profit and control motive, I just don't understand the technical reasons.

Re: Meta Horizon OS

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The Metaverse is what the Internet is if you add VR. It’s not hard to understand.

I understand. I read Snow Crash. Besides the Metaverse there was also a nuclear powered dog. My point is this -- by allusion to some concept with which an inventor wishes to form an association in the consumer's mind, their products are to be thought of as something different than they are, something too grand for plain language. This doesn't serve anyone but the inventor. The "Internet with head-mounted display" is…

If you use a term like "Virtual Reality" to describe things it eventually just becomes what people describe. Everybody knows what a VR headset is now. Everyone knows what VR is now. That is VR. The allusion is completely gone.

It's like describing snow to someone who has never seen it. No matter what they allusions they have about snow before they see it, once they've seen it, they know that is snow. And everyone they talk to will have the same meaning.

Same with Augmented reality, mixed reality, whatever. Once it becomes mainstream one of these terms will stick and that's just what it will be. Or it'll be so ingrained in the experience that we no longer even use a separate term to describe it.

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