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Re: Bard is now Gemini, and we’re rolling out a mobile app and Gemini Advanced

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Post by karmasimida »

seydor wrote: post #303
tarvaina wrote: post #299

Did I get this right? Bard – old name of their generative AI service, to be called Gemini Duet AI – old name for their generative AI in Google Workspace, to be called Gemini Gemini – three things: 1. the name of their models (like GPT). 2. the new name of their free service (like ChatGPT), gives access to Pro 1.0 but not Ultra 1.0. 3. the new name of the Generative AI tools in Google Workspace. Gemini Advanced – the…

bard(RIP) was powered by gemini which was powered by palm2 or something, which was powered by deepmind which was powered by google which was powered by alphabet or sth Let s hope the name sticks for more than 2 months

PALM2 is from then Google Brain I think, DeepMind didn’t bet big on LLM until much latter.

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Post by Otternonsenz »

Wonder if this will muddy the waters for searching about info for the Gemini protocol..

I have no use for machine learning like this, and definitely not what I thought when I saw the headline. Hope the pivot works well for alphabet, but odd nonetheless.

Re: Bard is now Gemini, and we’re rolling out a mobile app and Gemini Advanced

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Post by georgemcbay »

ra7 wrote: post #334
tarvaina wrote: post #299

Did I get this right? Bard – old name of their generative AI service, to be called Gemini Duet AI – old name for their generative AI in Google Workspace, to be called Gemini Gemini – three things: 1. the name of their models (like GPT). 2. the new name of their free service (like ChatGPT), gives access to Pro 1.0 but not Ultra 1.0. 3. the new name of the Generative AI tools in Google Workspace. Gemini Advanced – the…

It’s sad that a company of very smart people can’t figure out coherent naming. Can you imagine Apple causing confusion like this? I know it’s not a like-for-like comparison, but everything Apple does it seems like they have a grand strategy that’s clear for everyone to see. Things build up in a modular way to fit a big puzzle. Google, on the other hand, constantly makes up things on an ad hoc basis.

Why bother intelligently naming things when you're likely to just kill them off in a year because they don't drive advertising?

Re: Bard is now Gemini, and we’re rolling out a mobile app and Gemini Advanced

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Post by rootusrootus »

27182818284 wrote: post #159

Search for it in the Play Store, first icons are Crypto.com and Gemini: Buy Bitcoin & Crypto options to install Scroll past the screenshots of those apps Scroll past the Limitied-time events Scroll past the You Might Also Like and Similar Apps OK now we see it, we install, it we launch it and..."Gemini isn't ccurrently available. Try again later." Bravo Google. Great launch.

I tried on iPhone, saw all the different apps that aren't Google, then re-read the announcement and saw that I should be able to see it in the Google app. So I load the Google app, but for the life of me I can't figure out how to access Gemini with it. Go online, find a news article with pictures, see that the 'switcher' above the Google logo does not appear for me, and then give up.

I can access it via gemini.google.com and I'm logged in to the iOS Google app as the correct account, no idea why I can't see the functionality on mobile. Oh well. Maybe I'll stick with OpenAI a while longer.

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Post by mushufasa »

potatolicious wrote: post #484
ra7 wrote: post #334

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It’s sad that a company of very smart people can’t figure out coherent naming. Can you imagine Apple causing confusion like this? I know it’s not a like-for-like comparison, but everything Apple does it seems like they have a grand strategy that’s clear for everyone to see. Things build up in a modular way to fit a big puzzle. Google, on the other hand, constantly makes up things on an ad hoc basis.

It's the org chart. Google doesn't have a centralized marketing department that governs all of the company's products. Marketing is handled at the PA level (or sometimes even lower). Likewise for engineering, Google is organized into Product Areas (Geo, Search, Cloud, etc.), which also explains why one product would get some feature that would really make sense integrated into another... but it never happens. Google…

On the flip side, which large tech companies that have have an equally high velocity of shipping do this well?

Amazon?

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Post by jaymzcampbell »

LightMachine wrote: post #445
LightMachine wrote: post #210

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If we want to test these beasts in logic, we should probably start using actual formalized logic, rather than English. In just one test, Gemini flopped hard, while GPT-4-Turbo nailed it. Here is my prompt: Below is a well-typed CoC function: foo : ∀(P: Nat -> *) ∀(s: ∀{n} -> ∀(x: (P n)) -> (P (n + 1))) ∀(z: (P 0)) (P 3) = λP λs λz (s (s (s z))) Below is an incomplete CoC function: foo : ∀(P: Nat -> *) ∀(f: ∀{n} -> ∀(…

ERRATA: I just noticed GPT-4 mixed up `h` and `f`, so it also got it wrong. This is a draw. Both AIs (and, apparently, myself) are terrible at reasoning. Guess we're not curing cancer with computers anytime soon :')

I've been using GPT-4 to help me understand my MSc mathematics course and I've noticed this sort of stuff more and more as I start to look at the answers, always confidently written, in detail.

Way back when GPT was just fresh on the scene I had terrible anxiety about "what is the point of my whole career or even learning any more" but these days I'm much less concerned. I'll ask it something relatively simple, like "make a sentence out of words 'a', 'b', & 'c'" for it to reply with "'a' 'b' 'd' 'e'" for me to then correct it with "oh, you didn't use c" for it to then respond "sorry, here - 'a', 'c', 'd', 'f'" etc.

Definitely an amazing complimentary tool but when they say "can make mistakes, check important..." that's essential.

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Post by rootusrootus »

dominik wrote: post #328
dustedcodes wrote: post #287

I go to gemini.google.com. I type an prompt with "Create an image of ...". Response: > I can't create images yet so I'm not able to help you with that. Still broken, still not functional despite Google having announced this feature many days ago. I love many Google products but I am slowly losing a lot of faith and goodwill towards Google. This is just embarrassing.

Image generation isn't available in Europe.

Or in the US. I get the same "can't create images yet, here's a description ..." message. I asked Google where I am and it had the correct city that is very much in the US.

This is using Gemini Advanced.

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Post by rootusrootus »

huytersd wrote: post #290
dustedcodes wrote: post #287

I go to gemini.google.com. I type an prompt with "Create an image of ...". Response: > I can't create images yet so I'm not able to help you with that. Still broken, still not functional despite Google having announced this feature many days ago. I love many Google products but I am slowly losing a lot of faith and goodwill towards Google. This is just embarrassing.

Gemini advanced is not free. You’re trying the free version. Hit the dropdown in the top left and hit upgrade to advanced.

I get exactly the same error in Gemini Advanced. And I am very much in the US (and Google seems to understand this, it identifies my location accurately).

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Post by pitherpather »

ysofunny wrote: post #362
ra7 wrote: post #334

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It’s sad that a company of very smart people can’t figure out coherent naming. Can you imagine Apple causing confusion like this? I know it’s not a like-for-like comparison, but everything Apple does it seems like they have a grand strategy that’s clear for everyone to see. Things build up in a modular way to fit a big puzzle. Google, on the other hand, constantly makes up things on an ad hoc basis.

naming things is hard is one of the cultural difference between a computer-first logical mindset contrasted with the mathematics-first mindset the mathematics first mentality does not properly recognize the importance and the difficulty of having good names for things, whereas the computological view recognizes both: the importance and the difficulty

> naming things is hard

Of tangential interest: I recently heard that Faraday, while discovering new electromagnetic phenomenon, then turned to either a linguist or classicist for help in assigning/inventing terms for them. (I cannot find a link for this just now, so consider this heresay.)

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Post by rvnx »

_ea1k wrote: post #524
tarvaina wrote: post #299

Did I get this right? Bard – old name of their generative AI service, to be called Gemini Duet AI – old name for their generative AI in Google Workspace, to be called Gemini Gemini – three things: 1. the name of their models (like GPT). 2. the new name of their free service (like ChatGPT), gives access to Pro 1.0 but not Ultra 1.0. 3. the new name of the Generative AI tools in Google Workspace. Gemini Advanced – the…

Any Google service with a chat-like feature is 100% guaranteed to have weird splits, joins, and renames like this. Don't worry, it will get worse.

I think this Gemini is actually a strategy from Google to launch another Messenger under disguise.

You think it is an AI, but no, it's some sort of Messenger, just that they tried to replace actual users with bots, in order to fill the emptiness of Google+.

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