Greg Brockman quits OpenAI

Post by mirekrusin » Sat, Nov 18, 2023, 5:51 AM UTC

concurrentsquar wrote: post #408

johnwheeler wrote: post #84

Edit: I called it https://twitter.com/karaswisher/status/1725682088639119857 nothing to do with dishonesty. That’s just the official reason. ———- I haven’t heard anyone commenting about this, but the two main figures here-consider: This MUST come down to a disagreement between Altman and Sutskever. Also interesting that Sutskever tweeted a month and a half ago https://twitter.com/ilyasut/status/1707752576077176907 Th…

More new information from Swisher: > "More scoopage: sources tell me chief scientist Ilya Sutskever was at the center of this. Increasing tensions with Sam Altman and Greg Brockman over role and influence and he got the board on his side." > "The developer day and how the store was introduced was in inflection moment of Altman pushing too far, too fast. My bet: He’ll have a new company up by Monday." [source: https:/…

Post by refurb » Sat, Nov 18, 2023, 5:52 AM UTC

concurrentsquar wrote: post #408

johnwheeler wrote: post #84

Edit: I called it https://twitter.com/karaswisher/status/1725682088639119857 nothing to do with dishonesty. That’s just the official reason. ———- I haven’t heard anyone commenting about this, but the two main figures here-consider: This MUST come down to a disagreement between Altman and Sutskever. Also interesting that Sutskever tweeted a month and a half ago https://twitter.com/ilyasut/status/1707752576077176907 Th…

More new information from Swisher: > "More scoopage: sources tell me chief scientist Ilya Sutskever was at the center of this. Increasing tensions with Sam Altman and Greg Brockman over role and influence and he got the board on his side." > "The developer day and how the store was introduced was in inflection moment of Altman pushing too far, too fast. My bet: He’ll have a new company up by Monday." [source: https:/…

Post by acmiyaguchi » Sat, Nov 18, 2023, 5:55 AM UTC

DebtDeflation wrote: post #394

jprete wrote: post #375

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The question has enormous implications for OpenAI because of the specifics of their nonprofit charter. If Altman left out facts to keep the board from deciding they were at the AGI phase of OpenAI, or even to prevent them from doing a fair evaluation, then he absolutely materially misled them and prevented them from doing their jobs.

If it turns out that the ouster was over a difference of opinion re: focusing on open research vs commercial success, then I don't think their current Rube Goldberg corporate structure of a non profit with a for profit subsidiary will survive. They will split up into two separate companies. Once that happens, Microsoft will find someone to sell them a 1.1% ownership stake and then immediately commence a hostile takeo…

Post by Eliezer » Sat, Nov 18, 2023, 5:56 AM UTC

adastra22 wrote: post #159

w10-1 wrote: post #134

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Boards cannot meet or act without notice to board members and the opportunity for them to participate.

I'm not sure those rules apply to non-profits.

Post by cscurmudgeon » Sat, Nov 18, 2023, 5:58 AM UTC

justrealist wrote: post #523

cedws wrote: post #517

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>Ilya claims the transformer architecture, with some modification for efficiency, is actually sufficient for AGI. I thought this guy was supposed to know what he's talking about? There was a paper that shows LLMs cannot generalise[0]. Anybody who's used ChatGPT can see there's imperfections. [0] https://arxiv.org/abs/2309.12288

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