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I really hope Apple allows us to disable many of RCS's features like read receipts and previews. I really don't want spammy users to start seeing read receipts, etc.
I was working on RCS systems back in 2012. It was the future back them - incredible low latency for messaging and gaming, rich messaging, and a decent SDK. How did carriers fuck it up so badly that, a decade later, it's barely a blip on the messaging landscape? The were so desperate to stop OTT (over the top) services that they... locked everything down in the hope that customers wouldn't churn. It backfired spectacu…
Carriers supported it. Just Apple didn't, for a long time. The reason is obvious: To increase their market dominance in the US, where iMessage is common. Especially among US teens this was apparently successful. Teens didn't want to be the lame green bubble kids with reduced messaging features. They flocked to iPhones. RCS is (was) the prime example of Apple's anticompetitive behavior, after the App Store exclusivity…
Google ran a clever “Time for SMS to exit the chat” campaign some time ago. Might have helped precipitate this decision. https://youtu.be/N_B0riy__rw?si=C-gDkNbmb3MFyWao Telcos live in the Stone Age. A little disruption is well overdue.
I thought RCS was still a Telco-based service? Don't you have to have a telephone number to use it, at least? I keep hoping we go away from POTS, instead of continuing to invent reasons to be stuck with it.
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I doubt it. Also I don’t know how they’re doing that, but I’m more than willing to bet Apple will make sure it doesn’t work very long at all.
Google has been trying thusfar unsuccessfully to get legislative forces involved. Really doubt Apple would decide to add any fuel to that fire by going after a small company trying to be compatible with their products. Would look terrible in court and they know it.
If they “broke in” somehow Apple will fix it and cut them off again.
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Sure it was $10/line. iMessage was free once you had a smartphone plan. And no, smartphone plans didn’t automatically come with unlimited SMS. I had to “upgrade” for that.
>iMessage was free once you had a smartphone plan. Unless you went over your data limit.
Start sending any kind of media and all bets are off.
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I'm one guy. Six years ago, there were two of us out of ~30 that used Android. Both of us switched in the next year or so because nobody else would use a different app just to talk to us . So we were missing out on fairly critical information, and forget anything time-sensitive. On Android, it wasn't an issue to use Signal, because it will communicate securely if it can and by SMS if it can't. So you can still text a…
> I'd stay away from Whatsapp just to keep away from Meta. This seems prejudiced. If one company supports end-to-end encrypted chats with everyone, and the other only with people who buy their devices, I think it's clear who cares more about privacy.
Signal does E2EE. They have not yet done anything to jeopardize the trust they have earned. Some do not like them, and that’s fine. I have a different view.
Would this allow texting without a phone? My kid doesn’t want a phone but wants to text his friends. Are there any options or will there be after this?
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I live in America and literally nobody I know cares about this. Unfortunately I think it's just the typical remnant of the old Mac vs Windows haters who come out of the woodwork online to make it sound like a problem.
1. Kids care about it. Why? Because you can use iMessage via iPad without needing a phone number, and this is how lots of tweens get started with messaging. 2. Any Android users with iPhone friends trying to use iMessage for group chat cares about it. It's impossible to add Android users to an existing group chat... and any time you have a mixed iPhone + Android group chat it degrades a number of the iMessage group c…
Apple adopting RCS won't solve #1, and is unlikely to solve #2, but solving #3 is a great start, and if the Apple faithful continue to give feedback to Apple that they care about fixing #2, we might see it one day.
It also enabled read messages notification to the sender as well as realtime typing notification to the peer.