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Re: Raspberry Pi 5

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Post by msoucy » Thu, Sep 28, 2023, 2:46 PM UTC

Brajeshwar wrote: post #19

What is (or would be) the "Tsundoku" equivalent for Raspberry Pi? I started with Pi-Hole a few years back but ended up with a commercial paid DNS resolver. The timeline usually goes like this -- will stumble on another interesting video of Jeff Geerling, then spend the weekend tinkering with the Pi, keeps running, forget about it, found it to be not needed, plugs off and is lying around. [Tsundoku]( https://en.wikipe…

I have no answer to your question, but I'm so glad this word exists so that it can call me out and hurt me.

Re: Raspberry Pi 5

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Post by teamonkey » Thu, Sep 28, 2023, 2:46 PM UTC

impalallama wrote: post #516

Surprised by the amount of negativity here. So many comments that are saying the raspberry pi isn't competitive in their market anymore and then post more locked down less open systems at 2x the price.

Same as the people on Reddit claiming that Raspberry Pi has killed itself as a business because it's constantly in such high demand that it's always sold out.

Re: Raspberry Pi 5

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Post by spywaregorilla » Thu, Sep 28, 2023, 2:46 PM UTC

Hey, I'm not really savvy with hardware. I wanted to use a pi4 to be my home TV controller to stream content to a TV or projector.

A long time ago I saw this appear: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26495719

And it seemed to sort of work but not quite enough. There were stutters in the content streamed and strange clicks in the audio. Will this new one be enough? Was that even the likely limiting factor?

Re: Raspberry Pi 5

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Post by piotrke » Thu, Sep 28, 2023, 2:48 PM UTC

Are there any plans for Pi 5 16GB?

Re: Raspberry Pi 5

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Post by agloe_dreams » Thu, Sep 28, 2023, 2:49 PM UTC

spywaregorilla wrote: post #533

Hey, I'm not really savvy with hardware. I wanted to use a pi4 to be my home TV controller to stream content to a TV or projector. A long time ago I saw this appear: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26495719 And it seemed to sort of work but not quite enough. There were stutters in the content streamed and strange clicks in the audio. Will this new one be enough? Was that even the likely limiting factor?

Honestly? You can get a business mini PC with better performance and software support for less than a Pi4/5

Re: Raspberry Pi 5

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Post by fanf2 » Thu, Sep 28, 2023, 2:49 PM UTC

jauntywundrkind wrote: post #510

This happened a lot sooner than I would have guessed! I thought the 4 was gonna get milked for many more years. It'll still be around no doubt but the speed bump is appreciated. Interesting to see the emergence of a southbridge chip in SBC land. RPI4 using a Via USB3 controller and a dedicated Broadcom ethernet chip is somewhat against the grain of most embedded chips, which tend to have all this io on package. Here…

Around the start of this year they were saying the Raspberry Pi 5 would be released next year, so it’s about a quarter or two earlier than previously expected.

Part of the reason for the separate IO chip is that it can use an older silicon process (40nm) than the main chip (16nm) which makes it easier to have robust GPIO pins.

Re: Raspberry Pi 5

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Post by focusedone » Thu, Sep 28, 2023, 2:49 PM UTC

chalsprhebaodu wrote: post #355

glimshe wrote: post #348

Rasbperry Pis are losing their competitive edge for non-embedded applications to sub $150 mini PCs, which support Linux/Windows and will come with enclosure, NVMe slot, power button etc. The mini PCs are also generally much faster.

Where can I find these mini PCs? I am trying to find hardware for an upcoming project and I’m considering the Pi but would love to see some alternatives.

Lenovo Thinkcentre Tiny on eBay. The M600 model is about the slowest / cheapest available and you're looking at $60ish, often with an SSD.

Unless you need the GPIO or have a pi-specific purpose, used thin clients or tiny PCs make more sense for a home server now IMO.

Re: Raspberry Pi 5

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Post by adolph » Thu, Sep 28, 2023, 2:51 PM UTC

sapiogram wrote: post #500

wredue wrote: post #476

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Please stop using “average” for wage comparisons. It’s an utterly useless metric for showing if wages are moving or not. If you must use average, then you should remove the top 5% from the average.

> If you must use average, then you should remove the top 5% from the average. 5% is too arbitrary, just use the median.

Given outliers in a skewed dataset, wouldn't median be a worse description than mean without outliers?

https://openstax.org/books/statistics/pages/2-6-skewness-and...

Re: Raspberry Pi 5

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Post by agloe_dreams » Thu, Sep 28, 2023, 2:52 PM UTC

impalallama wrote: post #516

Surprised by the amount of negativity here. So many comments that are saying the raspberry pi isn't competitive in their market anymore and then post more locked down less open systems at 2x the price.

I mean, keep in mind that the Pi5 is a $60 device with ~$60+ of support hardware (Power supply, cable, miniHDMI to HDMI, Cooling, Case, Storage) You can get considerably more powerful mini PCs for less than a 4GB Pi5 with needed accessories that is upgradable, has further software support, and includes all of what you need to get with a Pi. Also, you are reducing eWaste.

Re: Raspberry Pi 5

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Post by ycuser2 » Thu, Sep 28, 2023, 2:54 PM UTC

agloe_dreams wrote: post #535

spywaregorilla wrote: post #533

Hey, I'm not really savvy with hardware. I wanted to use a pi4 to be my home TV controller to stream content to a TV or projector. A long time ago I saw this appear: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26495719 And it seemed to sort of work but not quite enough. There were stutters in the content streamed and strange clicks in the audio. Will this new one be enough? Was that even the likely limiting factor?

Honestly? You can get a business mini PC with better performance and software support for less than a Pi4/5

Yes, but consider the energy consumption.