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Re: macOS Sonoma is available today

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Post by tempodox »

pedalpete wrote: post #249

Does anyone else have no idea what macOS version is which? Which came first? Is there some hidden naming protocol that I just don't grasp? I've only started using a mac part-time while I've been developing an iOS app over the past few weeks, and I keep seeing different names for the OS version. I have no idea what version I'm on, or if Big Sur came before Sierra, or what. I know I could look it up, but it seems that…

> in the name of good user-experience, I shouldn't need to.

That ship has long since sailed with Apple, on so many fronts.

Re: macOS Sonoma is available today

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Post by andy_ppp »

tacker2000 wrote: post #497
cglong wrote: post #188

So it goes... Warning: You are using macOS 11. We (and Apple) do not provide support for this old version. It is expected behaviour that some formulae will fail to build in this old version. It is expected behaviour that Homebrew will be buggy and slow. Do not create any issues about this on Homebrew's GitHub repositories. Do not create any issues even if you think this message is unrelated. Any opened issues will be…

Yea the homebrew dev team is pretty user hostile tbh. The more you read their github, the more you realize how insufferable and arrogant they are. It leaves a very bad impression. Also, if you are not going along in the upgrade rabbit race, homebrew gets really annoying and actually in your way at some point. I see myself moving to macports soon, if brew gets worse and the stability of my setup is compromised (lots o…

I always expect endless support from free products, built by the community, that I'm not paying for or contributing to.

Re: macOS Sonoma is available today

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Post by pyr0hu »

eviks wrote: post #461
pyr0hu wrote: post #113

Nice, time for the yearly reinstall. I usually reinstall my MacBook whenever the new OS releases, it keeps my machine clean and fast.

You can keep the machine clean and fast without wasting time with reinstalls

I do this once a year, and takes like 2 hour. I don't consider this a waste of time as I can do it in the afternoon and not during work hours. I also have a secondary dev box so I could even do it while I'm working on other stuff.

Re: macOS Sonoma is available today

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Post by tempodox »

adastra22 wrote: post #515
pxc wrote: post #472

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've never heard someone pronounce it that way in my life until I saw the video. Maybe it's a regional thing, but it sounds like the wrong vowel sound at the end to me.

https://www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/fsseq2/comment/f...

> For fuck's sake, you invented the language, why do you suck at it?

A question for the ages.

Re: macOS Sonoma is available today

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Post by janandonly »

chatmasta wrote: post #250

I wish Apple would separate the updates of their bundleware from their OS. Some of the major updates have meaningful changes to the underlying OS (gatekeeper, SIP, etc.), but others - like this one - are primarily changes to frills like Messages, Notes, Safari and other Apple-native apps that I don't even use. I have no problem with Apple bundling these apps and making them work seamlessly together, and I don't even…

For tech minded folk, the upgrade-everyting-or-nothing is indeed unwanted.

But I love the facts that I can tell my family to upgrade and they will have all the new stuff at once, like with an iPhone or iPad. That is for most users what they want and/or need.

Re: macOS Sonoma is available today

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Post by rib3ye »

gnicholas wrote: post #391
chatmasta wrote: post #384

Earlier quoted context omitted.

brb, starting a band called "Spotify" and opening a 24/7 convenience store called "Google Maps"

It's not a bug, it's a feature. People have done crazier things! Didn't Steve Jobs once say that part of the reason he named the company Apple was because it would be before Atari in the phone book? [1] 1: https://www.macworld.com/article/673923/why-is-apple-called-... ).

Not just in the phone books. Ever wonder why the stock ticker has two A’s?

Re: macOS Sonoma is available today

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Post by sbuk »

nodesocket wrote: post #418
fh9302 wrote: post #4

For those curious, yes Apple did fix the Sonoma firewall bug reported by Mullvad. https://mullvad.net/en/blog/2023/9/22/macos-14-sonoma-firewa...

Does the built-in Apple firewall allow blocking of specific applications sending outbound traffic? I know you can block inbound traffic per application.

Depends on what you mean by builtin. The one in settings? No. pf does, however, allow you to do this. Murus is what you need if you want/need a frontend for pf.

Re: macOS Sonoma is available today

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Post by walteweiss »

johnsea wrote: post #439
KennyBlanken wrote: post #410

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It's not burnout. The homebrew team have been insufferable and egotistical for a long time. Max Howell (founder of homebrew) went to interview at Google, shoved a coding exercise back in their faces, made a snotty comment about how all the engineers at Google using Macs use his code and how dare they blah blah greatest engineer in the world blah blah, and walked out the door. That coding exercise was likely given to…

I am glad that there are people like Max Howell who write such (for me) great package managers. In opposite to what you write, here in a quote reply he comes across as very friendly: https://www.quora.com/Whats-the-logic-behind-Google-rejectin... PS: if really a lot of Googlers use brew I hope they also generously support the project (do. Apple)

Great as in ‘I’ve never tried anything else’ great?

Re: macOS Sonoma is available today

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Post by threeseed »

bombcar wrote: post #301
aeyes wrote: post #288

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You know what would be even better? If you could reliably uninstall all this junk or not even install it at all. Every time I hit some button on my keyboard and the Music app opens asking me to create an account I am reminded how hostile all commercial operating systems are.

Somehow on migrating to a new iPhone the music app decided it needed full notification permissions, apparently because a new Taylor swift album is of the same notification level as an incoming missile strike. At least it’s easy enough to turn off.

Music has always asked for notification permissions.

It's useful for people like me who want to know when new albums are released.

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