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You’re right. Right wing mass movements are never about high minded anything. It’s all lizard brain stuff. Get people angry about blather and they don’t notice their pockets getting picked. The good news is that there’s a history of these type of trends through history, and these movements burn out.
Just substitute left wing for right wing and read it back. Its still true
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As anyone who's been part of any bureaucracy knows, stated policy is often different than implemented practice. A lot of the issue with saying things like 'Republicans exercise control over school curriculums, thus the GOP is in charge of schools' misses the point that, regardless of the curriculum, the overwhelming majority of teachers vote democrat, which means -- again regardless of the curriculum --they will inje…
Meanwhile states across the country are passing laws threatening teachers with firing or criminal penalties for teaching the "wrong" things, which exerts its own kind of influence which isn't subtle.
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My wife was homeschooled and that's the main reason, along with the other families in their group.
Literally dinosaurs? Or more vanilla religious stuff?
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Meanwhile states across the country are passing laws threatening teachers with firing or criminal penalties for teaching the "wrong" things, which exerts its own kind of influence which isn't subtle.
Some states are. By no means do these comprise any set of states that affect a majority of Americans.
“They have no oversight, no taxpayer accountability, no academic or curriculum standards,” said Beth Lewis, director of Save Our Schools Arizona, a public school advocacy group. “We don’t know what kids are learning.” The irony is deep with this one. It could be rephrased “They are not recognising our gatekeeper status nor participating in our bureaucratic processes and frankly that is just not fair. We especially ob…
The hubris here of their "we know what's best for your child" assertion is astounding. "We don't know what kids are learning" is a wonderful thing to hear from a government rep.
Uhh, that isn't a "government rep." What kind of school did you go to?
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In home school, there is less people and more choice. Choice for whom, the student or the teacher? The teachers are the ones with the agendas, in all senses of the word.
No parent's agenda is for their child to be kicked around by another kid.
Home schooling is a real burden on many parents who aren't professional teachers of course and are pulled in many directions. One of the most exciting emerging trends in home schooling is to pool the resources of multiple home schooling parents. It's simply not practical for parents to commit all the hours needed for full time home schooling 9 till 3:30PM every day. So home schooling parents can team up and share the…
>This means the kids gather together in one location because many kids can learn from the person doing the teaching. >Often as well it makes sense for the parents all to contribute a little money so that instead of the parents having to teach things that they are not expert in, the can pay as a group for someone with subject expertise to assist. >It can be problematic though gathering so many kids into one house for…
Most home educators use a mixture of ways of learning. The best is self teaching because it teaches study skills - learning how to learn is invaluable.
It us also very flexible. For thise familiar with the British system, my daughters did GCSEs in subjects including Latin and astronomy. They sat some subjects early (the older one got an a in physics at 9) which let them spread things out and is less stressful.
Socially they meet lots of people, of varied ages, in diferrent settings.
Schools could learn a lot from the tailor made nature of HE. They could be flexible. We neef to move on from mass produced education. https://pietersz.co.uk/2023/08/schools-failing-flexible-answ...
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> No parent's agenda is for their child to be kicked around by another kid. The consequence is that every parent, given a scenario where they feel their kid is being kicked around, will remove their kid from that situation. That's not a healthy absolute either.
Would "we must force parents to keep their kids in situations where they (the parents) believe the children are being abused, to make sure the kids grow up tougher than their parents desires would result in," be a solution anyone would actually want?
Clearly, I'm not talking about extreme abuse.
But I am talking about more discomfort than I (as the parent) would want for the child in my ideal world.
Parenting is always wanting your child to suffer as little as possible. But a little suffering is good in the long run for the child.
Thus, the fundamental tension in letting parents be the ultimate arbiters of a child's experience.
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We homeschool our four children, are religious, most of our friends homeschool, and this is nonsense. We love the schedule flexibility of homeschooling, the ability to let our kids explore their own interests more, and most of all - we just love being with our kids and they get to have their siblings and parents all day. > That's because teaching kids is super hard and real easy to mess up. Forgive me, but this is ju…
My concern is primarily around standards of education. If you gave your kids wonderful educations with excellent curriculum, more power to you. The issue I have is that's not universal. It's that I've seen far too many examples of children that are illiterate. Examples of lazy parents doing things like taking a walk in the park and saying "see, we did biology today!". Examples of parents that "oops, forgot to do scho…
If your government school gave your kids wonderful educations with excellent curriculum, more power to you.
The issue I have is that's not universal. It's that I've seen far too many examples of high school graduates that are illiterate.
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You're making an "it worked for me" argument, which doesn't mean much. There are plenty of illiterate people in the US. Evidently teaching kids is, in fact, easy to mess up.
>There are plenty of illiterate people in the US. And I don't think you can produce a single example that was homeschooled. Public education is notoriously inconsistent and frequently produces children that haven't met minimum educational requirements precisely because it lacks the individual attention kids need.
I'm on board with criticism of government schools, but home-schooling isn't perfect and I have seen examples where kids were kept uneducated, up to functionally illiterate.
Parents have a right to home-school their kids. There will be kids that come out poorly -- it's going to be _fewer_ than if they'd gone to government schools.