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Re: We’re all just temporarily abled

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Before my 30s all my injuries took a week or two to heal. Now, I'm running around months with a pulled muscle. I don't even get them from lifting too heavy in the gym, I usually get them when I rotate in the dumbest possible way, grabbing some paper in the office.

Why are/were you regularly being injured!?

Don't know, just happens.

Especially since I'm over 30.

I lift something in the worst possible position, because I'm distracted, and suddenly I pulled my back, or whatever.

Grabbing something, turning around, remembering I need something else, just rotating my upper body and grabbing it, done.

Lifting a big mirror, without bracing myself.

Etc.

Re: We’re all just temporarily abled

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Delusional centrism. One side : use our immense wealth as the richest nation on earth to provide basic services to all citizens by maybe taxing billionaires so they only have 1/10 b instead of 100. Other side: if you're poor, it's your fault. Get fucked. Laughable you can consider those two positions in any way comparable or equitable. Absolutely silly the enlightened centrism I'm seeing here. Gross and dishonest to…

You highlight the difference between zealous advocacy and debate. The advocate cannot admit the flaws of their own position, or the merits of the other position. You characterize the left in a moderate way, and the right in an extremist way, even though extremism exists on both sides. I miss the cultural norm that privileged debate over zealous advocacy, leaving the latter to lawyers and politicians.

>Zealous advocacy is centrist handwaving that ignores material realities on the ground. Acting as if noting one side is reasonable with faults and the other are lunatics not fit to old office is empirical, here's some proof. Side A are passing a 4% tax on millionaire's and passing universal school meals for kids. [0] B are forcing 12 year olds to carry their rapists' child to term. [1] You're mistaking empirical pragmatism with "zealous advocacy" because you've probably bought a little too much horseshoe theory nonsense or some other centrist silliness. [0]https://www.npr.org/2023/08/18/1194424563/free-school-lunch-... [1] https://theguardian.com/world/2023/aug/14/mississippi-aborti... Please, tell me what extremism is there from the left outside of twitter??? Because I can list dozens of articles like [1] that the right are doing on the ground, right. now. Please, privileged debate away.

Re: We’re all just temporarily abled

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Paradox? Declining to experience torture several times a week in perpetuity is not a paradox. I have never ran a mile, not when I was young or today; not all of us have the genes that release happy chemicals from physical exertion.

I think that would just be a matter of practice. Many things are uncomfortable/difficult in the beginning, but if you do them enough then they can become rewarding.

What's the threshold of time until it becomes rewarding? I've kept a routine for 5 months, is that not enough?

Re: We’re all just temporarily abled

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As usual, Hacker News presents the anti-human take in the top few most upvoted comments. Although this is an unusually subtle one. I say this as a guy who still works a Starting-Strength-based program. Power lifting is great--it changed my life. But it's NOT a solution to disability and it's NOT a foolproof prevention. The implication that "if people just got off their asses and did some exercise they wouldn't be dis…

This is an extremely cynical take. (As usual, Hacker News!) > The implication that "if people just got off their asses and did some exercise they wouldn't be disabled!" is disgusting. I don't know how you got that implication. It seems like you agree that lifting is great. Many people don't do resistance exercise. The article itself is about the process of aging , and resistance exercise helps as a prophylactic. We a…

> The article itself is about the process of aging, and resistance exercise helps as a prophylactic.

Aging is relevant to the author's case of disability because they mention that they " tried something that, looking back now, maybe [they're] too old for". But a lot of disability has nothing to do with age.

I think the point of bringing up age is that a lot of able people are selfish and assume that disability is someone else's problem, when in fact, the vast majority of people will become disabled in their lifetimes.

Do you really not see how bringing up a way to prevent disability (which is at best, a small-percentage probablistic solution) sounds like an attempt to refute that point?

> But if it turns some people on to lifting, then net-net there's less disability in the world.

Sure, and that would be a good thing. But you've gotta understand that in every conversation about disability, many people's only contribution to the conversation is to talk about how people could be less disabled, with almost no non-disabled people willing to engage with actually accommodating disability.

It's at best extremely condescending, as if people who are disabled aren't trying their best to not be disabled. There are exceptions, of course, but even in those cases, I tend toward more compassion because there's likely underlying mental illness going on there.

Fundamentally, there just isn't a massive societal problem with people not doing enough to not become disabled. The problem is we don't do enough to accommodate disability. Constantly bringing up ways we can avoid being disabled is insensitive and distracts from the real problems and real solutions.

At a more basic level: stop trying to present your solutions to a problem you don't have, and listen more to people who have the problem. This is particularly true if your "solution" is to arrogantly tell people how to not have the problem.

Re: We’re all just temporarily abled

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USA is world-best of many things. But I don't think the healthcare is so good because it is funded by exploiting the poor. And if so, that would be quite a macabre defense.

“Exploiting the poor” is one of those philosophical arguments I disagree with. The US is supposedly so bad for the poor yet they are breaking down the door to come here, month after month.

> The US is supposedly so bad for the poor yet they are breaking down the door to come here, month after month.

The hope of most poor coming into the US isn't that the US is better for poor people, it's that by coming to the US they can stop being poor. And in most cases it doesn't work.

In fact, the American dream of "anyone can become rich" is a lie which exists specifically to justify why we've let America become such a shitty place for poor people. After all, why do we have to improve conditions for the poor if they can just become rich? It's their own fault they've chosen to be poor--they must like it, right?

Really, rich people have no idea what's going on with poor people, and you should really stop talking about things you don't understand.

Re: We’re all just temporarily abled

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I think that would just be a matter of practice. Many things are uncomfortable/difficult in the beginning, but if you do them enough then they can become rewarding.

What's the threshold of time until it becomes rewarding? I've kept a routine for 5 months, is that not enough?

Well what's your reason for running? To lose weight? To be healthier? To sleep better? Can you run longer distances? Can you run faster times? Can you compete in races?

I mean if you have run for 5 months and haven't progressed towards any of your goals ... then it seems like your routine needs to be improved. Or maybe you want a different activity that would help you reach your goals.

For most people, if you don't enjoy running just to run, the reward would be the progress towards your goals.

Re: We’re all just temporarily abled

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> Something my therapist pointed out to me is that obesity is directly linked to childhood and intergenerational trauma; calling it self-inflicted is not accurate. Even if we're focused on healthy eating, food deserts exist. No man is an island, &c. The idea that obesity is self inflicted runs contrary to our current understanding not just of psychology but of physiology. Most people don't have a constant struggle to…

> The idea that obesity is self inflicted runs contrary to our current understanding not just of psychology but of physiology. Eating your feelings (emotional eating) is commonplace. I'm saying it's a uniform cause, but common enough to pass the bar of "contrary to current understanding of psychology".

i'm late replying but i'd argue that emotional eating isn't entirely self inflicted. It's partially biological (our bodies naturally crave higher calorie foods during times of stress), partially down to learned behaviours that you may not be able to break without outside help.
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