I find it shocking that anyone still chooses to live in this broken city. I left >4 years ago and am never coming back. It's unfixable. Let's move the tech industry somewhere that isn't rotten to the core.
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Bob Lee, former CTO of Square, has died after being stabbed in San Francisco
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Re: Bob Lee, former CTO of Square, has died after being stabbed in San Francisco
#532In this thread everyone blaming homeless and the poor without any context of who the perpetrator is. It’s a big leap from shoplifting to a stabbing/murder. Also consider that even if the shoplifting/car break ins is being committed by the poor, they could be being directed by organized crime which is quite active in the area (look at the high profile heists in downtown that occurred in the past few years). The car br…
Re: Bob Lee, former CTO of Square, has died after being stabbed in San Francisco
#533Can someone very briefly wrap this whole "SF is broken"-situation up for somebody from Europe? I only ever read that it's "because of the policies" and there are lots of rather disturbing videos about SF making its rounds on YouTube. But what exactly happened? Did they just remove all the police? Did they gave out free drugs to everybody? I'm not interested in blaming political parties, I just want to get a quick gra…
The truth is we are letting antisocial criminal trash walk freely around downtown and terrorize the local population. I think a lot of people live in their nice neighborhood bubble and have never stepped foot in FiDi or SOMA. Since I moved here, I have sen people break into cars (numerous times), fill suitcases with products from Target and Walgreens and leave without paying, casually smoke meth in a crowded bus, emp…
> The negative feedback is very important for conditioning antisocial people to behave in a civilized community, but for some reason, SF has decided to not bother with it.
If we go with this, let's apply it equally. SBF should get 50 lashes in a town square and any employer stealing wages or landlord failing to maintain their property gets a beating and thrown in jail for a night. Why limit this punishment to petty crimes like pooping in the street?
Re: Bob Lee, former CTO of Square, has died after being stabbed in San Francisco
#534I find it shocking that anyone still chooses to live in this broken city. I left >4 years ago and am never coming back. It's unfixable. Let's move the tech industry somewhere that isn't rotten to the core.
The Tech industry caused a lot of the isdues in SF due to rising housing prices due to high wages. The problem will just move around.
A causal relationship seems very difficult to establish here. Housing prices in SF are mostly due to the fact that it's very, very difficult to build more homes. High wages, even if it's concentrated in one particular sector, spreads out to the rest, since those high earners have to spend their money somewhere. The average hourly wage among all occupations in the SF area is almost 50% higher than the nationwide average; in food service, 35% higher.
Of course, none of this causes drug addiction and mental illness.
Re: Bob Lee, former CTO of Square, has died after being stabbed in San Francisco
#535In this thread everyone blaming homeless and the poor without any context of who the perpetrator is. It’s a big leap from shoplifting to a stabbing/murder. Also consider that even if the shoplifting/car break ins is being committed by the poor, they could be being directed by organized crime which is quite active in the area (look at the high profile heists in downtown that occurred in the past few years). The car br…
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Broken_windows_theory
Re: Bob Lee, former CTO of Square, has died after being stabbed in San Francisco
#536Nothing will change. I was attacked in Christmas ‘21 in the Tenderloin, right after walking out of the KFC/Taco Bell on Eddy. Two cop cars drove by me and did nothing. It was only due to an ambulance finishing a run at Sutter and spotting me that I didn’t bleed out on the suitcase. I have video, proof of damages physical and financial, eyewitnesses and the info of the men who attacked me. SFPD will not arrest them be…
A major problem as I see it is a lack of nuanced policy. Currently in America it seems that you can either have police brutality and criminalized homelessness or you can have non-enforcement. What we really need is to prosecute crime but without tolerating police brutality or making laws designed to punish the poor.
That’s what progressives in SF would say they are doing - with the stipulation that moderate amounts of theft, violence, and disorder are simply part of being marginalized, so criminalizing those behaviors is inherently oppressive.
Re: Bob Lee, former CTO of Square, has died after being stabbed in San Francisco
#537I find it shocking that anyone still chooses to live in this broken city. I left >4 years ago and am never coming back. It's unfixable. Let's move the tech industry somewhere that isn't rotten to the core.
The Tech industry caused a lot of the isdues in SF due to rising housing prices due to high wages. The problem will just move around.
This is a myopic point of view.
"High wages" are not the issue, inequality is, and the largest contributor to that are low wages.
We should be fighting poverty, not aiming at the middle class to earn less.
Re: Bob Lee, former CTO of Square, has died after being stabbed in San Francisco
#538Can someone very briefly wrap this whole "SF is broken"-situation up for somebody from Europe? I only ever read that it's "because of the policies" and there are lots of rather disturbing videos about SF making its rounds on YouTube. But what exactly happened? Did they just remove all the police? Did they gave out free drugs to everybody? I'm not interested in blaming political parties, I just want to get a quick gra…
Two factors:
a) They cut officers and drive them away. They had 2,160 officers and needed them. They are down to 1,651 officers (Sept 2022) Source: abc7news.com
b) The San Francisco DA allows many arrested to allowed to go free. They elected a special DA to allow people to go free. Not for all crimes, but many. This emboldens people because they see so many people released without trial or sentencing for their crimes, so they are emboldened to commit crimes.
The number of murders is very sad to see increased to such high levels.
Re: Bob Lee, former CTO of Square, has died after being stabbed in San Francisco
#539I find it shocking that anyone still chooses to live in this broken city. I left >4 years ago and am never coming back. It's unfixable. Let's move the tech industry somewhere that isn't rotten to the core.
Or, let’s decentralize the center of the tech universe so that everyone can prosper and we don’t fall into this trap again.
I go back and forth around whether these dense communities of industry are bad or not. It certainly creates bubbles and echo chambers, but there's also a lot of real innovation that happens because there's a rich ecosystem of skilled people to hire to build things.
This is coming from someone who has never lived in SF.
Re: Bob Lee, former CTO of Square, has died after being stabbed in San Francisco
#540I have commented on SF threads before regarding the violent crime. I don't think we have figured out if this was premeditated or not, but either way, SF is becoming incredibly dangerous. Progressive DA's and a neutered police force are to blame for the rise in violent crime. Many of my friends have taken their remote gigs and left SF in the last 3 years. What's the point in rolling the dice every time you walk outsid…
>Progressive DA's and a neutered police force are to blame for the rise in violent Interesting that you say this after our progressive DA was recalled & our mayor is trying to supplement the SFPD budget by $27.6M. Also interesting, I have lived in SF since 1972 and only been mugged once, in my 1st yr there (I was 7 & mugged by kids across the street in the projects for my Mickey M watch and about $0.50). I will freel…
Having lived in SF for over 10 years (and never been mugged) there are multiple areas that are subjectively and objectively unsafe. I hope you continue to be so lucky.