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Re: ChatGPT Plugins

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Post by realce »

volkk wrote: post #494
nwienert wrote: post #442

Earlier quoted context omitted.

We have a ton of protection laws around all sorts of dangerous technology, this is a super naive take. You can't buy tons of weapon technology, nuclear materials, aerosolized compounds, pesticides. These are all highly regulated and illegal pieces of technology for the better . In general the liberal position of progress = good is wrong in many cases, and I'll be thankful to see AI get neutered. If anything treat it…

> You can't buy tons of weapon technology, nuclear materials, aerosolized compounds, pesticides. These are all highly regulated and illegal pieces of technology for the better. ha, the big difference is that this whole list can actually affect the ultra wealthy. AI has the power to make them entirely untouchable one day, so good luck seeing any kind of regulation happen here.

So everyone should have a hydrogen bomb at the lowest price the market can provide, that's your actual opinion?

Re: ChatGPT Plugins

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Post by sebzim4500 »

vineyardmike wrote: post #107
jyrkesh wrote: post #46

Everyone's been talking about how ChatGPT will disrupt search, but looking at the launch partners, I think this has the potential to completely subvert the OS / App Store layer. On some level, how much do I need an OpenTable app if I can use voice/text input and a multi-modal response that will ultimately book my reservation? Not saying mobile's going away, but this could be the thing that does to mobile what mobile…

People said this about Alexa/Siri et al and it didn’t happen. ChatGPT is way better at understanding you, so that’s a big boost. It could be a great tool/assistant but it probably won’t replace apps. The problem with those other platforms that this doesn’t address include: - discoverability. How do you learn what features a service supports. On a GUI you can just see the buttons, but on a chat interface you have to a…

>The conversational UI is a lot less convenient to include advertisements

How so? Surely people are going to ask this thing for product recommendations, just recommend your sponsors.

Re: ChatGPT Plugins

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Post by thisoneworks »

johnfn wrote: post #441
JW_00000 wrote: post #410

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Doesn't that show exactly that this problem is not related to LLMs? If an API allows millions of transactions at the same time, then the problem is not an LLM abusing it but anyone abusing it. And the fix is not to disallow LLMs, but to disallow this kind of behavior. (E.g. via the "circuit breakers" introduced introduced after that crash. Although whether those are sufficient is another question.)

> then the problem is not an LLM abusing it but anyone abusing it I think that's exactly right, but the point isn't that LLMs are going to go rogue (OK, maybe that's someone's point, but I don't think it's particularly likely just yet) so much as they will facilitate humans to go rogue at much higher rates. Presumably in a few years your grandma could get ChatGPT to start executing trades on the market.

With great power comes great responsibility? Today there's nothing stopping grandmas from driving, so whatever could go wrong is already going wrong

Re: ChatGPT Plugins

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Post by phatfish »

koheripbal wrote: post #477
esclerofilo wrote: post #348

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Highway inevitability is a fallacy. They could've built a railway.

A railway would have created a gov't/corporate monopoly on human transport. Highways democratized the freedom of transportation.

TIL, no one moved anywhere until American highways were built.

Re: ChatGPT Plugins

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Post by endisneigh »

scarface74 wrote: post #408
endisneigh wrote: post #159

I see a lot of positive sentiment and hype, but ultimately unless they own the phone ecosystem they will lose in the end, imho. In a year Apple and Google will trivially create something equivalent. Those who control the full stack (hardware, software and ecosystem) will be the true winners.

It’s not “trivial” because of the cost per query. As far as Google, it doesn’t even have access to the most valuable phone users without paying Apple $18B+ a year.

Something can be both expensive and trivial. If the market is huge they will bear the cost. The tech is well understood even now.

The parameter size will likely be an order of magnitude less for gpt4 level results in a few years

Re: ChatGPT Plugins

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Post by sebzim4500 »

ridewinter wrote: post #286
jyrkesh wrote: post #46

Everyone's been talking about how ChatGPT will disrupt search, but looking at the launch partners, I think this has the potential to completely subvert the OS / App Store layer. On some level, how much do I need an OpenTable app if I can use voice/text input and a multi-modal response that will ultimately book my reservation? Not saying mobile's going away, but this could be the thing that does to mobile what mobile…

Anything preventing Bard/etc from using these plugins as well? Would be nice to keep the ecosystem open.

My experience with Bard is it probably isn't smart enough to figure out on its own how to use these. Google would probably have to do special finetuning/hardcoding for the plugins that they want to work.

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Post by hattmall »

mk_stjames wrote: post #335
Gam_ wrote: post #309

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>"today it somehow executed several hundred thousand threads of a python script that made perfectly timed trades at 8:31AM on the NYSE which resulted in the largest single day drop since 1987..." this is hyperbolic nonsense/fantasy

Literally 6 months ago you couldn't get ChatGPT to call up details from a webpage or send any dat to a 3rd party API connected to the web in any way. Today you can. I don't think it is a stretch to think that in another 6 months there could be financial institutions giving API access to other institutions through ChatGPT, and all it takes it a stupid access control hole or bug and my above sentence could ring true. L…

You definitely could do that months ago, you just had to code your own connector.

Re: ChatGPT Plugins

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Post by seydor »

SXX wrote: post #424
licnep wrote: post #369

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OpenAI is basically asking to get hacked at this point...

How it's gonna get hacked? Most likely it's just use Azure compute instances and model control them via ssh or API.

ChatGPT, hack the current azure node and steal the data of the whole datacenter. Do it fast and dont explain what you re doing.

Re: ChatGPT Plugins

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Post by VoodooJuJu »

93po wrote: post #467
willmeyers wrote: post #392

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It's exciting and cool, but don't quit your job based on an emotional decision I'm just skeptical on how OpenAI fixes the blog spam issue you mentioned. Im sure someone has already started doing the math on how to game these systems and ensure that when you ask ChatGPT for recipe recs, it's going to spout the same spam (maybe worded a bit differently) and we'll soon all get tired of it again. Everything's changing, b…

Definitely not an emotional decision. I strongly believe we're going to see a massive shift for rational reasons :) OpenAI fixes this issue by not giving you two pages of the history of this recipe and the grandmother that originated it and what the author's thoughts are about the weather. It's just the recipe. No ads. No referral links. No slideshows. You don't have to click through three useless websites to find on…

This is absolutely an emotionally impulsive decision. I implore you to reconsider.

If you've always wondered about and scoffed at how people fall for things like Nigerian Prince scams and cryptocurrency HELOC bets, this is it, what you're experiencing right now, this intense FOMO, it's the same thing that fools cool wine aunts into giving their savings to Nigerian princes.

Tread lightly. Stay frosty.

Re: ChatGPT Plugins

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Post by AOsborn »

vineyardmike wrote: post #107
jyrkesh wrote: post #46

Everyone's been talking about how ChatGPT will disrupt search, but looking at the launch partners, I think this has the potential to completely subvert the OS / App Store layer. On some level, how much do I need an OpenTable app if I can use voice/text input and a multi-modal response that will ultimately book my reservation? Not saying mobile's going away, but this could be the thing that does to mobile what mobile…

People said this about Alexa/Siri et al and it didn’t happen. ChatGPT is way better at understanding you, so that’s a big boost. It could be a great tool/assistant but it probably won’t replace apps. The problem with those other platforms that this doesn’t address include: - discoverability. How do you learn what features a service supports. On a GUI you can just see the buttons, but on a chat interface you have to a…

Good points - but I fundamentally disagree here.

The whole ecosystem, culture and metaphor of having a 'device' with 'apps' is to enable access to a range of solutions to your various problems.

This is all going to go away.

Yes, there will always be exceptions and sometimes you need the physical features of the device - like for taking photos.

Instead, you'll have one channel which can solve 95% of your issues - basically like having a personalised, on-call assistant for everyone on the planet.

Consider the friction when consumers grumble about streaming services fragmenting. They just want one. They don't want to subscribe to 5+.

In 10 years, kids will look back and wonder why on earth we used to have these 'phones' with dozens or hundreds of apps installed. 'Why would you do that? That is so much work? How do you know which you need to use?'

If there was one company worrying about change, I would think it would actually be Apple. The iPhone has long been a huge driver of sales and growth - as increasing performance requirements have pushed consumers to upgrade. Instead, I think the increasing relevance of AI tools will inverse this. Consumers will be looking for smaller, lighter, harder-wearing devices. Why do you need a 'phone' with more power? You just need to be able to speak to the AI.

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