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Re: Google releases Bard to a limited number of users in the US and UK

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Post by askvictor » Wed, Mar 22, 2023, 12:48 AM UTC

dTal wrote: post #484

askvictor wrote: post #461

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Me: I assert it is Wednesday. Do you agree? ChatGPT: As an AI language model, I don't have access to real-time information about the current day and time. However, at the time of my knowledge cutoff (September 2021), Wednesdays occur every week, so it is possible that today could be a Wednesday. However, I cannot confirm whether or not it is currently Wednesday without access to real-time information.

>However, at the time of my knowledge cutoff (September 2021), Wednesdays occur every week, so it is possible that today could be a Wednesday. A true mathematicians answer.

And yet ChatGPT is terrible at mathematics

Re: Google releases Bard to a limited number of users in the US and UK

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Post by Thorentis » Wed, Mar 22, 2023, 12:50 AM UTC

tastysandwich wrote: post #528

nolok wrote: post #428

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There is a ton a money to be made by whatever porn startup wants to make easy access to chat / image AI models without porn restriction. Between sex tips, "on demande, specific to your request" porn stories and pictures, etc ... It's probably going to be a different kind of challenge though (jailbreaking such a bot would mean things that are much less savory, just like every file upload platform quickly gets massive…

I'm genuinely worried about this. DeepFakes are getting pretty good. The potential for revenge porn is super high. And the rabbit-hole of dopamine chasing when you're able to generate custom porn is just frightening. Many young boys will figure out how to access that when they're 13 and won't know a life without it. I'm terrified of the internet world my kids are going to be in.

Don't let them be in it then. There is no reason for children to have access to the internet.

Re: Google releases Bard to a limited number of users in the US and UK

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Post by whiplash451 » Wed, Mar 22, 2023, 12:56 AM UTC

karmasimida wrote: post #485

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I dont’t think now is the right time to optimize for cost (if I were in google’s shoes)

I would disagree They will rollout to masses, which is as important as its performance.

OpenAI has rolled out to the masses as well apparently (unless I am missing something).

Bard will be under intense scrutiny from the public in the short term.

Any sign of weakness against GPT4 might kill the product in the public opinion.

It makes a lot more sense IMO to throw money at the problem in the short-term, and optimize later. They are playing catch-up.

Re: Google releases Bard to a limited number of users in the US and UK

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Post by kevin_thibedeau » Wed, Mar 22, 2023, 12:57 AM UTC

nerdix wrote: post #451

nolok wrote: post #428

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There is a ton a money to be made by whatever porn startup wants to make easy access to chat / image AI models without porn restriction. Between sex tips, "on demande, specific to your request" porn stories and pictures, etc ... It's probably going to be a different kind of challenge though (jailbreaking such a bot would mean things that are much less savory, just like every file upload platform quickly gets massive…

Whenever a DALL-E/Stable Diffusion like model but for video comes out... The CP thing is going to open up a can of worms. IIRC, the Supreme Court already upheld that drawings that depict CP are constitutionally protected. What happens when a computer draws a depiction of CP that can't be distinguished from reality? I guess it's protected but it'll make it much harder to identify real CP.

There have been convictions based on child heads photoshopped onto adult bodies. Generative images will be treated the same. The lack of a real victim is treated as immaterial. All it needs is sufficient realism to be believable.

Re: Google releases Bard to a limited number of users in the US and UK

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Post by gbraad » Wed, Mar 22, 2023, 12:58 AM UTC

Google Bard doesn't work for Workspace accounts

Re: Google releases Bard to a limited number of users in the US and UK

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Post by anon7725 » Wed, Mar 22, 2023, 12:58 AM UTC

aiappreciator wrote: post #482

akomtu wrote: post #469

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Anyone has doubts that this thing can outtalk and outdebate just about anyone? Imagine a politician on stage, who gets hints from gpt4 in hus earpiece.

You are mixing up grammatical skills with logical thinking skills. Turns out, poetry, rythme, rap, are all low level skills, which the AI easily conquer. To master them, you only need to master language, but not world knowledge. Turns out, writing novels is the hardest thing for LLMs. GPT-4 still absolutely sucks at writing interesting stories. Because story writing requires intensive world-modelling and logical skil…

"You are engaged in a political debate. Your name is . You are assertive but polite and concise in your responses. A summary of your policy platform follows:

It's your opponent's turn, and they state:

You reply: "

Re: Google releases Bard to a limited number of users in the US and UK

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Post by riemannzeta » Wed, Mar 22, 2023, 1:04 AM UTC

hbn wrote: post #350

duckmysick wrote: post #344

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> Alice and Bob are playing, Bob leaves, Alice hides his toy, Bob comes back, where does he look for his toy? I might be dumber than the AI because I don't know the answer. Bob looks around? I mean the toy is not there when he comes back. Where else can he check?

It's not a very well described example of the test. I've heard of this before but used to test for autism, and it was more something like "Bob puts his toy in a box and leaves, Alice takes his toy out of the box and hides it under a desk, when Bob comes back where does he go to grab his toy?" The idea is if someone said "under the desk" they might not understand that people have different subsets of information, i.e.…

This is a test for theory of mind -- a term of art used by psychologists for the ability to understand that other people have their own consciousness, with different memories and awareness.

Re: Google releases Bard to a limited number of users in the US and UK

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Post by lwhi » Wed, Mar 22, 2023, 1:09 AM UTC

So I've had mixed results.

Conversationally, Bard seems a world away from bing and ChatGPT. I can use any type of language I like and the conversation flows backwards and forwards.

Bard also seems to have opinions. After asking "What's your solution to the problems presented by Brexit in the UK? It feels like the government has failed the people." .. Bard began by saying the government has failed the people and offered some pretty reasonable suggestions. ChatGPT did it's standard slopey shouldered disclaimer and bulletpoint schtick.

In terms of facts, I think Bard does seem to get things wrong more often than Bing or ChatGPT.

There was one exchange where I posted a YouTube link to ask what it thought. Just before it told me that it wasn't able to process these; however after I sent the link it said it had knowledge of the video and gave a completely fabricated description.

Felt like it was super keen to not fail at any cost so just made something up.

Also had a conversation about its very first ten prompts, which is recounted freely. Interestingly one was to apply for BHSEC (Bard High School Early College). Asking if it was able to do that now it said no, but confirmed it could in the past with less restrictions.

Would be interesting to know if this was a hallucination or real.

Re: Google releases Bard to a limited number of users in the US and UK

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Post by akomtu » Wed, Mar 22, 2023, 1:14 AM UTC

aiappreciator wrote: post #482

akomtu wrote: post #469

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Anyone has doubts that this thing can outtalk and outdebate just about anyone? Imagine a politician on stage, who gets hints from gpt4 in hus earpiece.

You are mixing up grammatical skills with logical thinking skills. Turns out, poetry, rythme, rap, are all low level skills, which the AI easily conquer. To master them, you only need to master language, but not world knowledge. Turns out, writing novels is the hardest thing for LLMs. GPT-4 still absolutely sucks at writing interesting stories. Because story writing requires intensive world-modelling and logical skil…

Political debates are a lot closer to rap battles, than to a math conference. That's because the listeners hatdly know any logic at all.

I'm sure GPT can write novels. Just ask it to outline the list of chapters with brief summaries, then ask it to expand each chapter.

Re: Google releases Bard to a limited number of users in the US and UK

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Post by UncleOxidant » Wed, Mar 22, 2023, 1:18 AM UTC

It does not seem to want to write any code. Initially, it did write me a convolution function in Python (which had problems), but later on in the day I can't get it to write even a simple Fibonacci function.