The teen mental illness epidemic began around 2012

Post by brodouevencode » Thu, Feb 09, 2023, 1:34 PM UTC

goodpoint wrote: post #26

arp242 wrote: post #2

Another possible explanation is that we are simply diagnosing these kind of mental health issues better – due to decrease in stigmatization and/or more attention to it – but that our treatment is worse than doing nothing, and is leading to higher rates of self-harm and suicide. I have no idea if that's the case – and if it is a factor at all it probably doesn't account for all of it – but it seems something worth exp…

> I benefited more from the occasional swift kick in the backside and being told to "man up" Practically you are saying that pedagogy and psychology are wrong and harmful on a fundamental level. Either you are in denial or a whole field of science is wrong.

Post by oneoff786 » Thu, Feb 09, 2023, 3:04 PM UTC

retrac wrote: post #508

oneoff786 wrote: post #466

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Ok but… this is so obviously a generational thing. You know who does know the YouTuber? His peers. He does not watch cheesy 80s films and you don’t watch 40s theater. People absolutely don’t need mainstream media. Mainstream media hits the lowest common denominator and tends to suck. I think most YouTubers and uncomfortably fake to watch, but I would still prefer people watch that over mainstream tv…

I'm only some ten years older. The films I spoke of were released before I was born. Yet most of my generation is familiar with some of them. Star Wars, then. Or Schindler's List. Maybe I'm Spielberg biased. The Exorcist. My point is that there was such a thing -- a common film canon -- that people who were interested in film, could be expected to be somewhat familiar with. No longer true? Yes. Lowest common denomina…

Post by derangedHorse » Thu, Feb 09, 2023, 3:36 PM UTC

gwbas1c wrote: post #534

carabiner wrote: post #90

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40% of high school students don't go to college (of any type). Of those, only a tiny portion are focused on elite universities. Many are just going to Long Beach State, University of Redlands and other 4 year schools that you've never heard of. They have lax admissions. Among adult Americans, only a third have bachelors degrees. Certainly the high pressure scholastic environment of certain high schools is not common.

I don't know where you got those numbers. For the past 20ish years or so, the rallying cry in American politics is that everyone needs to go to college in order to have a job. It's only recent that the left is pushing for jobs that don't require college degrees.

Post by P_I_Staker » Thu, Feb 09, 2023, 3:52 PM UTC

brodouevencode wrote: post #3

arp242 wrote: post #2

Another possible explanation is that we are simply diagnosing these kind of mental health issues better – due to decrease in stigmatization and/or more attention to it – but that our treatment is worse than doing nothing, and is leading to higher rates of self-harm and suicide. I have no idea if that's the case – and if it is a factor at all it probably doesn't account for all of it – but it seems something worth exp…

The increase in suicide rates for both genders (but especially females) are astounding. I really don't believe that any changes in treatment have been so radical as to cause this to manifest the way it has.

Post by khmii » Thu, Feb 09, 2023, 4:01 PM UTC

waboremo wrote: post #127

nluken wrote: post #79

While I don't doubt that social media can drive some of these mental health issues, I think most teenagers are simply stressed from the constant work that's necessary for the college admissions process. I'm 24, so I would have been a teenager in 2012, but I didn't have a smartphone until I was 16 or so. My high school experience consisted almost entirely of school, studying, and running (my primary extracurricular).…

It's also important to note that social media doesn't operate in isolation. We can blame social media all we want, but when we keep preferring candidates in the hiring process who have presentable social media, it's just amplified for teens. Now they have to keep up a grand social media presence, good grades, stay in physical shape, manage their changing family dynamics, get and hold a job, and their own internal sys…