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Post by iainmerrick »

dTal wrote: post #187
bpye wrote: post #123

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As a human, I can understand the concern about the potential for AI bots to infiltrate online forums and communities. However, I believe that it is not a matter of when this will happen, but rather how we can prevent it from happening. We should be cautious and proactive in addressing the potential risks and challenges of AI bots in online spaces. We can do this by implementing strict moderation and authentication me…

"How would an AI pretending to be a human answer this" is an unnecessary extra level of indirection when genuinely asking an AI to pretend to be a human, and is likely what lead to the comically hokey "As a human" opener to an otherwise bland comment.

Comically hokey, or on-brand HN?

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Post by pwdisswordfish9 »

shadowgovt wrote: post #374
SilasX wrote: post #219

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I tried to split the difference with my April Fool's RFC, which proposes the HTTP status "397 Tolerating" for when you want to say "yeah, I know what you want, and I'll give you that, but here's how you were supposed to ask for it". https://pastebin.com/TPj9RwuZ

I am borderline sad that this is only an RFC. The number of services I use that I wish had a "warning" side-channel for letting me know something in my query was off, let me tell you...

It's not even an RFC, it's just a pastebin post pretending to be one.

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Post by rcarmo »

guiambros wrote: post #460
rcarmo wrote: post #197

I'm completely sold on this. Here's the output of "Describe Java in the style of Jamie Zawinski" (jwz.org): Java? Ugh. Don't even get me started on Java. It's like the worst language ever. It's slow, it's bloated, it's a total mess. And don't even get me started on the whole Java ecosystem. It's like this giant, convoluted mess of libraries and frameworks and tools and... ugh. But you know what the worst part is? The…

Seems OpenAI is actively monitoring the queries, and they're now banning any connections to personalities or any connection to specific individuals, current events or political situations. Same query as yours just now: > "Describe Java in the style of Jamie Zawinski" > "Java is a powerful, versatile, and widely-used programming language that runs on virtually any platform, from desktop computers to mobile devices to…

Good thing the first thing I did was take a screenshot :)

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Post by AnonymousPlanet »

Jolter wrote: post #516
emodendroket wrote: post #511

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All the voice assistants have the same problem though. What would you do with it that they can make money from? Are you going to trust their judgment when you ask to buy something?

Apple phones are full of features. Most of them cost nothing beyond the cost of entry (iPhones are expensive). Presumably all these well engineered features contribute to some holistic image of a “quality product”, whatever that means. You might as well say “the camera does not bring revenue to Apple so they intentionally didn’t develop it any further”, which is nonsense.

I know people who bought their iPhone specifically for the camera. I never heard of anyone buying an iPhone because of Siri.

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Post by Kamq »

Jolter wrote: post #516
emodendroket wrote: post #511

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All the voice assistants have the same problem though. What would you do with it that they can make money from? Are you going to trust their judgment when you ask to buy something?

Apple phones are full of features. Most of them cost nothing beyond the cost of entry (iPhones are expensive). Presumably all these well engineered features contribute to some holistic image of a “quality product”, whatever that means. You might as well say “the camera does not bring revenue to Apple so they intentionally didn’t develop it any further”, which is nonsense.

The camera has one time cost (well, and r&d).

Siri has ongoing costs to run the servers.

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Post by stavros »

astrange wrote: post #435
halpmeh wrote: post #371

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If you want it in the style on one book, you can probably prompt it to do so. The current answer does fit the prompt pretty well.

First try. -- Q: Write a modern retelling of the Book of Job where, instead of taking his wealth, God torments Job by making him use DNSSEC. Try to resemble the original KJV language. A: In the land of Uz there lived a man named Job, who was blameless and upright, and feared God and turned away from evil. And the Lord said to Satan, "Have you considered my servant Job? There is no one like him on the earth, a blamele…

This is the best thing in a long while.

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Post by jchmrt »

cuteboy19 wrote: post #324
kortilla wrote: post #304

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Sentencing recommendations? Do you mean what the prosecutor asks the judge for or are judges using this software?

Apparently they use it to calculate recidivism. Then that report is used by the judge to calculate the sentence. It's already being used in some places in the US

As far as I know, the algorithms used for these are in fact rule-based at this point, not neural networks. Which actually is not much better, since these systems are still propietary and black box. This is of course horrible for a functioning sense of justice, since the decisions made are now (partly) dependent on opaque decisions made by an algorithm of a company without any arguments you can contest or inspect. Furthermore, it has been shown that these algorithms frequently are racially biased in various ways.

Further reading: https://www.propublica.org/article/machine-bias-risk-assessm...

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Post by scotty79 »

joe_the_user wrote: post #507
scotty79 wrote: post #496

One thing it can't really do is admitting that it doesn't actually know stuff. It's similar to creative pupil that asked specific question during lesson doesn't actually know the answer and just smoothly makes stuff up as they go. I asked it how to destructure an iterator in rust. I got answer, with code examples and all. Which of course don't work because you can't directly destructure iterator in rust. You pretty m…

One thing it can't really do is admitting that it doesn't actually know stuff That's because it "doesn't understand knowing". It's ultimately a search engine. When a smart, wise person knows something, they have something of a model of the limitations knowledge - indeed a serious person's model of their knowledge increases along with their knowledge. And certainly some people don't have anything like a model of knowl…

> It's ultimately a search engine.

Not even that. It's make stuff up engine. Search engines are able to return "no results found".

Current incarnation of GPT chat can tell you it doesn't know something, like current net worth of Elon Musk, but it's definitely canned answer that crudely patches the underlying model response which is never empty.

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Post by KyleBerezin »

helsinkiandrew wrote: post #40

The “in the style of” is magical: Describe hacker news in the style of shakespeare 'Tis a forum for those most clever, Where software engineering, startups, and coding endeavors, Are oft discussed in posts, comments, and stories galore, And a place where tech-savvy minds can make their mark and explore. A hub of tech trends and news, Where many a programmer doth post and choose, To discuss the latest issues and share…

For some cheap fun, "In the style of an Alex Jones rant" is pretty good.

>Describe squirrels hiding nuts in the style of an Alex Jones rant

Squirrels are trying to take over the world! They're hiding their nuts all around the globe, and it's all part of a devious plan to gain control! The squirrels' master plan is to dominate the planet by stockpiling their mighty supply of nuts, so if you spot a squirrel frantically trying to hoard his stash – you'd better watch out, because the squirrels are coming for all of us! Wake up, America!

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Post by antonvs »

twoodfin wrote: post #171
wizofaus wrote: post #118

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While I don't think anyone would mistake that for actual Shakespeare, it's still pretty mindblowing - what's with "mark on the North" though? (I found a page online about the play Richard III that did use that phrase, but can't see any other connection...)

Could be reaching for a poetic descriptor of the domain of HN’s influence: There’s quite a bit of advocacy and scholarly material that metaphorically divides the world into a rich North and a poor South.

So it’s politely observing that HN doesn’t care about the Global South.
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