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Re: Elon Musk owns Twitter: The story so far

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What if he just loses a big pile of money while Twitter twists in the wind because there isn't much of a plan? That seems likely enough really.

If that's the case, it won't be so different from when Twitter was run as a public co.

Musk Twitter and Musk have way bigger loans than public twitter.

Re: Elon Musk owns Twitter: The story so far

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> managing the exodus of users (size:?) that will happen regardless; This is probably the biggest risk in this acquisition. Twitter wasn't doing anything special, and it's easy to launch a clone of their business model. Elon's talking about taking an axe to the things that keep the lights on at Twitter: effective content moderation and talent.

> taking an axe to the things that keep the lights on at Twitter: effective content moderation and talent. I have experienced the 'effectiveness' of Twitters moderation team on multiple occasions where they were very ineffective at upholding the very clear cut rules surrounding things like doxxing on their website. I had my personal information made public, and they ignored me. Multiple times. I even created a new ac…

I agree that Twitter's content moderation is mostly a vibe, and not really effective. Musk purchasing Twitter is already killing that feeling that content moderation works at Twitter, and I wouldn't be surprised if advertisers put a freeze on their plans the day the purchase went through (hence Musk's panicked-sounding tweet to advertisers).

Re: Elon Musk owns Twitter: The story so far

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I think it's going to be more in the other direction. He really hates the bots, so he'll probably close up the API. Until bots gets solved, no developer should expect the API to open up.

The problem isn't the bots, the problem is the lack of differentiation between bots and real accounts. I say open up the API and let people make whatever bots they wish, but if you tweet through the API then you get a big "BOT" tag next to your username on the feed.

What about people who use the API for accessibility reasons because the official app isn't compatible with their needs?

Re: Elon Musk owns Twitter: The story so far

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In the spirit of trying to be high-information and add value: Where Musk is going, there are no maps. So it's very very hard to project. But we can predict likely developments. At a very high level, it's going to involve: bringing back controversial personalities like Donald Trump; increasing Twitter's commitment to 'free speech'; assuaging skittish advertisers; retaining users who might be concerned, while bringing…

Let's assume he makes Neuralink happen in the sense of really giving a locked-in person the ability to communicate in real words and sentences. He now has the network to connect those people directly to the rest of the world, under his umbrella. Sure, he could have just used (old) Twitter's API, and that's what he'll be using, but it won't be "we (as in 'Neuralink') and Twitter made this happen", but "we (my companie…

"under his umbrella"...

Is that supposed to be an attempt at imagining the most horrible future possible?

Umbrella corporation anyone?

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I was a big Elon Musk fanboy for what he was able to accomplish on both Tesla and SpaceX. I had the impression that he was very genuine and really wanted to "save humanity". I ignored the crazy things he said on twitter. I think his accomplishments overshadowed his less favorable behavior. But after his tweets about Ukraine, it really started to dawn on me that his "save humanity" was not really save humanity, but ju…

> SpaceX. I had the impression that he was very genuine and really wanted to "save humanity". One think I which people would realize more is that you can't "safe humanity" by populating mars or anything like that. Even if earth becomes extremely hostile due to climate change, or lets say a catastrophic event like it killed the Dinos it would still be docents if not even hundred of times easier to live on earth then o…

Same goes for Tesla. Transporting people in a sustainable way is what public transports do, already, not electric cars with 1,1 passengers. Electric cars do make tons of money, however.

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But we can see Twitter being supported by extreme right foundations. I'm from Brazil and the extreme right is abusing all the communication platforms. it's a complete madness in what people believe right now. Our society is on the verge of crumbling.

the same could said about the far left in America. well i guess it could be said about the far right too. its up to the folks in the middle, the progreservatives (or consegressives depending on how you look at it), to end the madness but most of us are too busy living our own lives to care about how crazy the fringes of society are beyond the entertainment value of it all.

I'd be interested to see some examples of the far left trying to influence communication platforms.

Re: Elon Musk owns Twitter: The story so far

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They need to re-free up the API. Early adopters and hackers really did some great work using the API until they walled-gardened it and rate limited it to make it unusable. They need to do this for goodwill at the very least, but I think it will spark the fire to make it popular with techies again. Based on the recently published discovery chats we will probably see: * High def video * Focus on music publication * The…

> * High def video Maybe as a paid/subscriber feature; even YouTube seems to have a cost problem with high def video. Video ads are barely profitable, I can't imagine serving high quality video content at a loss being a good business decision. > * Focus on music publication I think this is a niche that Twitter currently excels at. The music industry constantly has small announcements which is well suited for Twitter'…

I really like your industry/user-type approach.

In the Fintweet community the wish list is probably something like:

* Ban all spam bots

* Ban all spam bots (it's that bad)

* Ability to edit tweets

* Maybe a slightly better to tack tickers. Currently you'll do something like $META but this gets problematic when there are dual-listings, or the same ticker in different markets.

* Have URLs not count towards character limit

Re: Elon Musk owns Twitter: The story so far

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If I was working at Twitter right now I would be looking for a different job, regardless of what I think of Elon's politics/motives. The talk of layoffs and major policy changes creates massive uncertainty and I don't think I'd risk sticking out the transition. I bet many inside the company feel the same. This begs the question: If there is a major exodus, will it even matter? And, if it does, how will the problems m…

As I indicated in my post https://albertcory50.substack.com/p/should-elon-lay-off-all-... : Twitter spends more on R&D as a percentage of sales than 5 other large tech companies, even Facebook, and moreover, the percentage is increasing . Where is this "innovation"? It's not a new platform. Its market is, arguably, saturated; I don't see a "next billion users" (as they say at Google) coming from anywhere. So the answ…

Most software development is in that r&d figure.

Re: Elon Musk owns Twitter: The story so far

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Disclaimer: Previously worked in Toyota's EV R&D division, opinions my own. > Remember, Tesla has to become bigger than Toyota to justify the stock price. It is not possible to do that at Tesla's current price points. It is not possible to do that at Tesla's current price points. Long term Tesla has to create a balance sheet and a narrative that convince people that it's current valuation is justified. Based on my ti…

As long as Tesla doesn't own the Li suppliers or mining rights, it doesn't matter how much Tesla got in the past, because going forward all other EV makers, or battery makers, will get their volumes as well. Prices will spike, in which case past contracts can help to buffer that. And assuming Tesla has a squezze on Li supplies, laws prevent the use of that control to hurt competitors. Braking these laws carries enoug…

> As long as Tesla doesn't own the Li suppliers or mining rights, it doesn't matter how much Tesla got in the past

My understanding is that Tesla is leveraging long-term contractual lock-ins in various shapes. One particular one I heard was that in exchange for fronting some of the up-front cost for the mine Tesla would retain the right to buy X% of the mine's output at a maximum markup of Y% over cost to produce.

This kind of contractual lock-in can achieve the desired goal without using either of the mechanisms you listed.

Re: Elon Musk owns Twitter: The story so far

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Would be interesting if he makes Twitter more dev friendly (open APIs etc)

"Would be interesting if he makes Twitter more dev friendly (open APIs etc)" How open and dev friendly is Tesla?

More open and friendly than most.

https://www.tesla.com/blog/all-our-patent-are-belong-you

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