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Windows 11 Officially Shuts Down Firefox’s Default Browser Workaround

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Re: Windows 11 Officially Shuts Down Firefox’s Default Browser Workaround

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Odd, I run Slackware-current, with Fluxbox. To suspend, I just run "xlock & loginctl suspend" from a script being called from a Fluxbox submenu. Dumb easy.

Good satire!

xlock = locks your desktop with a screensaver (or not).

& = puts xlock in the background so the shell can continue parsing commands without waiting for xlock to finish.

loginctl = sends the command on the right to the login manager.

suspend = self-explanatory.

Thus, upon waking up from suspend, your machine is still locked up by xlock. Simple.

Re: Windows 11 Officially Shuts Down Firefox’s Default Browser Workaround

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> I avoid the creepy feeling that Google is logging every mouse movement and keystoke I make for teh ads. Microsoft is doing it too: https://www.pcworld.com/article/423165/how-to-turn-off-windo... There's still Linux.

Always with the Linux. I can't use Linux, I work in a Microsoft world. I can turn off the keylogger, and virtually anything else I don't want/like. I cannot (assuming I used their products) stop Google from storing my (MY!!) data on their infrastructure and having their way with it.

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Re: Windows 11 Officially Shuts Down Firefox’s Default Browser Workaround

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A lot of people complaining about Windows 11 here. I suggest giving Linux a try! It just works these days. Ubuntu, Mint, and Elementary are fun places to start. "But can I use $MS_THING ?" Yes, if you insist. Just spin up a VM. But really, if work isn't forcing you to use a particular tool, there are better ways of doing that :-)

I'd recommend skipping Ubuntu and the *ubuntus. Linux Mint and Debian are better. Zorin claims to be Windows-like: https://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=zorin

Re: Windows 11 Officially Shuts Down Firefox’s Default Browser Workaround

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i thought that too! but firefox has different dns requests going to their servers as well.

On linux you can use IceCat. On windows, download simplewall and block pingsender.exe there. Should get rid of the queries if you combine it with userjs tweaking.

Or just use LibreWolf, it's just FF with uBlock and disabled tracking out of the box (available for GNU, macOS, and MSW iirc).

Re: Windows 11 Officially Shuts Down Firefox’s Default Browser Workaround

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They have plenty of time and moat to get away with it. The success of Windows is not because people like it, but because it's the de facto standard PC OS. Drivers are built for Windows, computers come preinstalled with Windows, schools teach Windows and Office, businesses are already invested in Windows. This is not going to change just because Windows is somewhat annoying.

This has been the case for decades, but it can't be this way forever -- even Cobol apps get rewritten sometimes. I've been a lifelong Windows user, but I honestly can't see myself installing Win 11, even for my parents.

Even if Windows market share dwindles, just imagine how many legacy systems are still running on it. These systems, along with the support contract Microsoft negotiated with them, are what will keep them alive indefinitely. Not forever, of course, but the end is not soon either.

Re: Windows 11 Officially Shuts Down Firefox’s Default Browser Workaround

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The problem is cmd-tab brings everything up. For example, if you have a terminal window and a browser window next to each other that you're flipping between, but there's a browser window under the terminal window, cmd-tab will obscure the terminal.

I use a free application called Spark, which lets me bind global hotkeys to arbitrary things, and in particular those things can be "bring up the topmost window of application X while leaving the rest where they are". I have it set up so that control-shift-h brings up Terminal, control-shift-c brings up Chrome, control-shift-f brings up Finder, control-shift-n brings up Firefox, etc., and for most of those I have "Br…

I’ve done the same using BetterTouchTool [0]. It’s named very unfortunately because it is able to assign a system-wide function to any input device, even MIDI devices. It is highly customizable.

[0] https://folivora.ai/

Re: Windows 11 Officially Shuts Down Firefox’s Default Browser Workaround

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Hmm, I find it pretty practical, cmd-tab from one app to another, cmd-backtick to toggle between windows, I mean, it's a different paradigm, sure, but you can still move around from the keyboard? I do find it a little annoying that there aren't consistent shortcuts for moving between tabs in everything that uses them, could be cntrl-tab, could be alt-arrows...

The problem is cmd-tab brings everything up. For example, if you have a terminal window and a browser window next to each other that you're flipping between, but there's a browser window under the terminal window, cmd-tab will obscure the terminal.

It’s unfortunate that cmd-tab behavior cannot be customized not to bring all windows in front. It makes a pain working with multiple apps. And, this behavior hasn’t been the case all along, IIRC.

Re: Windows 11 Officially Shuts Down Firefox’s Default Browser Workaround

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Forcing the use of edge for features that should be browser-neutral like Bing web search from the start menu seems very wrong in terms of user choice. However, if this is Microsoft's version of "Electron" in order to implement parts of the OS, then blocking other browsers seems pretty reasonable. It makes technical sense because they can also directly provide a Windows Login cookie for linking to their apps on the we…

why do you need to ALWAYS stay signed in? for the past decade i have a habit of doing CTRL+SHIFT+P on my firefox and using that. i did a "privatebrowsing.autostart=true" in the past but for a few years, a simple private window is enough. it takes me 2 seconds to click on sign in to anything and when i close the window, everything is washed away. no more youtube building my profile. i'm not saying this is for everyone…

While the UI side still needs a lot of work, I find Firefox containers to be a great compromise. Any site I want login or cookies to persist gets a container, and the rest can go in a private window.

Re: Windows 11 Officially Shuts Down Firefox’s Default Browser Workaround

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Windows 11 is just another Microsoft operating system setting the groundwork for a generational leap just like Windows ME, Windows Vista, and Windows 8. IMO it is designed to not be widely adopted. When Windows ME was released, it was little more than a reskin of Windows 98 that removed or disabled much of the 16 bit capabilities and support for the ISA architecture in favor of 32 bit and PCI. It couldn't be installe…

When Windows ME was released, it was little more than a reskin of Windows 98 that removed or disabled much of the 16 bit capabilities and support for the ISA architecture in favor of 32 bit and PCI. It couldn't be installed on most existing machines and was highly unstable on those that it would run on. Very little of this is true. Windows ME runs all the 16-bit code you can throw at it and supports all ISA devices i…

> Very little of this is true. Windows ME runs all the 16-bit code you can throw at it and supports all ISA devices identically to 95 and 98.

No it doesn't. Windows ME didn't just remove support for booting into real-mode. It removed support for VxD drivers.

In Windows 3 Microsoft introduced virtual device drivers (VxD) that allowed applications to share hardware, these VxD drivers actually just mediated access to a real-mode 16 bit driver. This allowed hardware manufacturers to write one driver to support MS-DOS and Windows.

In Windows 95 they allowed you to implement VxD with true protected-mode drivers that lacked backward compatibility but with much higher performance. This was supported right up through Windows 98SE. Technically though a manufacture only need to ship a real-mode VxD driver to support MS-DOS, Windows 3, and Windows 9x if they didn't need high performance benefits of a protected-mode driver.

The WDM driver model was introduced with Windows 98 and it simplified driver development but was only compatible with operating systems >= Windows 98. So apart from sound cards that benefited from the WDM driver model introduced in Windows 98, a vast array of hardware only supported real-mode VxD drivers.

There was actually an issue that plagued Windows 9x where if the OS detected an instability in a protected-mode VxD driver it would put a flag in the registry to permanently stop the OS from attempting to load protected-mode drivers and your system be stuck running real-mode drivers resulting in significant performance issues with IDE devices.

IIRCC Microsoft announced the drop of support for VxD in Windows ME like 2 months before it went Gold. Because most modern hardware was PCI based and using WDM, this resulted in a lot of ISA/16-bit hardware just never getting ported to Windows ME and a lot of hastily written and inherently unstable WDM drivers for a few products that did.

This impacted a lot of folks, I remember Creative Labs having issues with WDM drivers on their sound cards for years.

Re: Windows 11 Officially Shuts Down Firefox’s Default Browser Workaround

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Haven't you heard? It's the year of the Linux desktop :) In all seriousness, until about a year ago when I got a discount on a Macbook and changed to that, I had been running Linux for about a decade across different laptops, and feel that since ~2017 the desktop experience has improved substantially . I bought a new laptop in 2017, installed Ubuntu on it...and that was it. I spent exactly zero minutes installing dri…

One problem here is that you always get posts like this. I've seen discussions about Linux on desktop going back twenty years, now, and there are always people saying it was problematic a few years ago and is so much better now. But then always plenty of people still having trouble and plenty of listed in-thread issues with sleep, trackpads, multi-monitor, configuration, compatibility, etc. It seems like you have to…

> It seems like you have to get lucky or do a lot of research. Or both.

Yep, no question here. While Linux compatibility has gotten a lot better in recent years, you're definitely rolling the dice a bit in driver-land if you don't research beforehand.

That said, since pretty much every big distro is free, it's not necessarily a bad idea to just download it and try it out, at least with a Live USB Ubuntu image or something. If it works out of the box, then maybe you should install it, and if it doesn't, just unplug the flash drive and restart the computer and stick with Windows. It's entirely possible (and even likely these days) that it will Just Work (tm), and that might influence your decision in switching.

> But there's probably no point at which Linux will work well on all hardware

Yes and no; I think Linux tends to do exceptionally well on older hardware. I've been able to breath life into decade-old computers by just installing Linux Mint with MATE desktop [1], and generally by the time a computer is designated as "old", drivers on Linux are often better than they are on Windows, and due to how stupidly customizable Linux has become, you can get extremely lightweight desktops that require basically nothing to run (e.g. LXDE, MATE).

On newer hardware? Eh, as I said, you're rolling the dice a bit. Generally if you stick with AMD hardware, you are fine, as I said, but that's by no means guaranteed, and to me getting WiFi to work out of the box is the scariest thing, since if you cannot get connected to the internet, it's difficult to fix any of the problems.

[1] I did this for my grandmother who is still running an old AMD64 single-core computer. All she uses it for is browsing the web and checking email (not even YouTube) and she refuses to buy a new computer. Linux Mint has been a godsend.

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