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While I applaud Signal's response I expect this entire event (subpoena and response) will be provided as one of the exhibits to congress by the Department of Justice to justify their request that it be unlawful to provide such services. The DoJ will say, "See, here is this horrible crime we are investigating and because this company chose to make it impossible for law enforcement, with a warrant and a subpoena to get…
Beautiful. That's how you do it. I actually believe that law enforcement has the legal right to subpoena information, with a judge's consent, while investigating criminal activity. This is exactly the solution to that problem. These platforms should want to know as little about you as possible.
Yes, although the way around this for law enforcement is to pressure Apple and Google to remove Signal from the App Store/Play respectively (to protect children!) and work on operating system level bypasses of Signal. I am fearing this scenario.
The more I think about it, the more I am convinced they could do this, but they would rather not because it's much harder, since it requires a special warrant with high evidence thresholds for each user. This reinforces the claim that what they really want is an ability to get any messaging data without a warrant, but they don't want to say so.
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Yes, although the way around this for law enforcement is to pressure Apple and Google to remove Signal from the App Store/Play respectively (to protect children!) and work on operating system level bypasses of Signal. I am fearing this scenario.
I wonder how far they could go in compelling Signal to push a change that let more info leak for a specific user. I know there have been somewhat similar cases where companies were compelled to add new functionality, logs, etc, to capture info for a specific user.
If they had developers in, say, France, who would need to accept changes made somewhere else then a single country could not force such secret modifications.
Of course an app is actually a binary, so there must be a way to verify that code + compilation = the published binary.
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In the UK the government introduced a "record of everyone's internet history" law and then exempted themselves from it. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13087339
The particularly messed up thing about that and similar laws in the UK is they are made using cross party consensus
The whole thing is still a pyramid scheme
Trickle down is a euphemism for pissing on people
They think in hierarchy and give us data structures like org charts to distribute that meme, manufacturing consent
God on high, down to priests…etc…king on high…baron…etc…most people never learn to talk around the imagery.
Futurists have been suggesting the fall of nation states is at hand as cities begin to chafe under outsider rule. Of course then you just have local hierarchy.
I’m done seeing the public as capable political agents. The Roman Catholic notion everyone is their own moral agent has allowed people to think their actions only have consequences they choose them to have, as they optimize for increasingly specific stats with little real network value.
While I applaud Signal's response I expect this entire event (subpoena and response) will be provided as one of the exhibits to congress by the Department of Justice to justify their request that it be unlawful to provide such services. The DoJ will say, "See, here is this horrible crime we are investigating and because this company chose to make it impossible for law enforcement, with a warrant and a subpoena to get…
While I applaud Signal's response I expect this entire event (subpoena and response) will be provided as one of the exhibits to congress by the Department of Justice to justify their request that it be unlawful to provide such services. The DoJ will say, "See, here is this horrible crime we are investigating and because this company chose to make it impossible for law enforcement, with a warrant and a subpoena to get…
In addition, I’d wager lots of politicians use it now for obvious reason’s.
Ergo that won’t happen. That being said, can’t blame DoJ for trying though.
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Which race? The US interred Japanese people during WW2. I hear that we interred people from central and south America for the last 5+ years, too. We're not a hundred years from anything except gaslights.
I think it is socially acceptable in US to discriminate against Asians and Caucasians.
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like drugs, prostitution, and myriad of other small time victim-less crimes?
Is the fentanyl death rate or trafficking of underage girls harmless?
Trafficking underage girls is obviously a crime against another human being, it's not a victimless crime like drugs and should be punished.
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like drugs, prostitution, and myriad of other small time victim-less crimes?
Is the fentanyl death rate or trafficking of underage girls harmless?
(Analogously, this is why law enforcement professionals and the like have been moving to the term "child sexual abuse material" instead of "child pornography": the problem with it is not that it's pornography, it's that it's sexual abuse.)
It is not only entirely possible to fight the crime of trafficking people and forcing them to do certain acts without criminalizing those acts, it is in fact significantly more effective. Imagine, for instance, if Abraham Lincoln had tried to eliminate slavery by declaring that picking cotton was illegal. Not only would it not have addressed the problem, it would have made the problem worse - slaves are in no position to refuse to do an act because it's illegal, and a fugitive slave would be liable for the crimes they committed as a slave.
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Communist regimes made orders of magnitude more victims and forbid free speech for much longer for much more people than nazis ever dreamed of. And yet all the countries who forbid and condemn nazi speech tolerates the communist speech. Source: I spent part of my childhood in a communist country.
It's equally true if you s/Communist regimes/Church/g.
I don't think the Church has any hope to regain the power they once had.
These days my biggest fears are communist regimes (like China) and Islam spreading in Europe (we already have some courts partially applying Sharia laws in the UK).