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Re: Google Pixel 6 and Pixel 6 Pro

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Post by josephg »

aetherson wrote: post #498
josephg wrote: post #452

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I love the openness of android, and the explicit permission to root your phone. But iphones have amazing longevity. The iphone 5s you mentioned came out in 2013 - which is 8 years ago now. Back then Obama was still in his first term. Maybe it is way too slow to handle the most recent version of iOS, but I'd rather a phone vendor that releases operating system updates for 8 years than a vendor who releases updates for…

Obama was in his first term for 20 days of 2013, not overlapping with the release of the iPhone 5s.

Oops - thanks!

Re: Google Pixel 6 and Pixel 6 Pro

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Post by vanilla_nut »

soylentnewsorg wrote: post #489
vanilla_nut wrote: post #464

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This sounds brilliant. If you were to start fresh today, what device would you use? My aged iPhone is on its last legs, and I’m looking for something on the small side (preferably Nexus 5 sized at most) that I can degoogle and use for telegram, HN, reddit, music, and podcasts. It seems like every older phone has a gotcha, like nonfunctional cameras or missing wireless bands. 7 days of battery sounds magnificent.

Samsung S10 and S10+ looks to me like the place to be, flashed w/ a custom degoogled ROM. Nokia Maps (here wego), Open Camera, something like Aptoide, K9 mail. https://forum.xda-developers.com/c/samsung-galaxy-s10.8693/ I did a lot of research earlier, because I don't use a case, dropped my pixel 2xl, and the glass on the corner cracked. I ended up just putting a dab of epoxy on it instead though. I use the carbonOS…

All of that sounds good except for the phone size.

I'd go for a Pixel 5, but... no 3.5mm jack is a dealbreaker.

So I guess the Pixel 4a is my only real choice.

Re: Google Pixel 6 and Pixel 6 Pro

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xeromal wrote: post #528
Sodman wrote: post #224

I hate the trend that the "pro" versions of all these flagship phones need to be an XL Phablet monstrosity. Human hands haven't gotten any bigger. I have owned most of the Nexus & Pixel phones throughout the years. After having the Nexus 6 as my daily driver for 2 years, I have always opted for the smaller option ever since. I would totally pay flagship prices for a regular ~5.5-6" phone with flagship specs, and I'm…

I think a lot of it is to fit a bigger battery. No easy way to do it unless you want a 3 inch thick phone

Adding thickness will increase battery volume and thus capacity quite significantly since most of them are currently thin rectangular prisms. You can try the math yourself.

Re: Google Pixel 6 and Pixel 6 Pro

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Post by DCKing »

soylentnewsorg wrote: post #439
DCKing wrote: post #20

Thanks Google. Think I’ll be buying this. I want as little to do with Google’s services as possible in my life, but they really deserve credits for making a modern usable smartphone that is reasonably open. There is just one single feature I will be buying this for - the 5 years of software updates. While good image processing is definitely a pro, all of these software you’re presenting features I really don’t give a…

One doesn't have to dream. Flashing a rom on google-branded phones is so simple, a non-tech person can follow a 5min youtube video to do it. The Nexus 6 from 2014 can have the latest android running on it - not just security updates. And unlike an iphone, it has a build that disables some eyecandy that keeps it actually usable and fast. As I understand it if you run the last supported ios on an iphone 5s, with all th…

That’s all great - but don’t lure people too much into a false sense of security. While your Nexus 6 may run a shiny new version of Android, underneath it runs a crusty old 2017 kernel full of holes of different sizes. The community is great, but vendor support remains important. LineageOS and other projects can’t fix things in kernels they can’t compile - they can only provide security updates for open source components.

That makes Google’s promise here so key. 5 years of updates is 5 years of kernel level fixes. After that, it’s probably left up to the community.

I really don’t recommend people to go out and buy abandoned Android phones to flash software. LineageOS and other community projects are a blessing in many many ways, but they don’t make your phone completely up to date. And that’s something one should make an informed decision about (buying an iPhone, I decided against that).

Re: Google Pixel 6 and Pixel 6 Pro

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Post by gpm »

heffer wrote: post #367
ac29 wrote: post #330

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Pre-orders come with free Pixel Buds ($99), which if you care, is a nice bonus. With all the supply chain issues this past year, you might not even be able to buy one come Black Friday, much less at a discount or with a better freebie.

In Germany (and some other EU countries) pre-orders come with Bose Noise Cancelling Headphones 700 (A ~270 EUR value). Here in Canada not only is the phone more expensive, it also "only" comes with Pixel Buds which are a ~CAD 160 value after tax. The Bose headphones are also more expensive in Canada (as pretty much anything except gas and electricity) so they'd be an even better value here. So I'll investigate if the…

> Here in Canada not only is the phone more expensive, it also "only" comes with Pixel Buds which are a ~CAD 160 value after tax

Wait... what? I thought it was describing them as half off not free and didn't add them :(

Seem to be out of stock now, so I can't go back and fix it.

Damn.

Re: Google Pixel 6 and Pixel 6 Pro

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Post by weikju »

lern_too_spel wrote: post #499
marcellus23 wrote: post #26

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> Apple’s stated intents to actively incriminate you by scanning your photos on a personal device More accurately put, their intent is to scan cloud photos for exact matches with known child pornography material (like every other cloud provider, including Google), and then have the case reviewed by a human only after multiple positives, and only then forwarding the case to law enforcement (based on photos you chose t…

The difference is that if you don't want your photos scanned by anybody but you still want your photos uploaded in the background, you can do that on Android, but you can't do that on Android. People who value privacy do not use iOS devices.

Or rather: People who value privacy do not upload their photos to someone else' servers

Re: Google Pixel 6 and Pixel 6 Pro

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Post by DangitBobby »

standardUser wrote: post #513

I couldn't wait any longer so I purchased a very expensive Samsung S21 Ultra ($1200) because no Google phone could lure me away from my fading Pixel 2 XL. My mistake, because the Samsung phone had preloaded software that took considerable effort to remove (more than most people could/would deal with). It wasn't the software itself that bothered me, but rather that there were notifications for apps I don't use that I…

My experience with Bixby on the 6+ was enough to make me never want another Samsung phone. And that was before the motherboard was fried 13 months into ownership, right after the warranty expired. $500 repair went to a Pixel 3 instead (which was the perfect phone, as far as I'm concerned).

Re: Google Pixel 6 and Pixel 6 Pro

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Post by bredren »

DCKing wrote: post #20

Thanks Google. Think I’ll be buying this. I want as little to do with Google’s services as possible in my life, but they really deserve credits for making a modern usable smartphone that is reasonably open. There is just one single feature I will be buying this for - the 5 years of software updates. While good image processing is definitely a pro, all of these software you’re presenting features I really don’t give a…

> that is reasonably open.

I am curious if the courts will agree given the evidence of Google secretly paying carriers not to open their own app stores.

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