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Re: 2022 Ford F-150 Lightning

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Post by bombcar »

wanderingshi wrote: post #297
pkulak wrote: post #286

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> It’s like the aesthetics of a pickup truck is offensive to some people. When a vehicle is driving in front of my house with a grill that's a foot higher than my oldest child... yeah, I don't much like those aesthetics. And it has nothing to do with "moving stuff". The UPS delivery vans that are actually built to, ya know, move stuff, have lower grills and way safer sight lines.

yeah show me where you can buy a ups delivery van type vehicle lol

They're called step vans and available anywhere commercial trucks are sold: https://www.comvoy.com/bodytypes/Step-Van

You can find used ones in running condition relatively cheap.

Re: 2022 Ford F-150 Lightning

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Post by goshx »

Dah00n wrote: post #424
ortusdux wrote: post #287

Tesla's checkout process has spoiled me. It's landing page -> select a model -> select options and appearance -> enter payment info for a 100$ deposit. No signups, no friction, just car creation and transparent info and pricing. Step one on Ford's site is to select a dealer. Already I'm thinking about how much I hate my local dealer and the whole dealership system in general. Step two is a login screen with create an…

That's quite funny as just today the newest magazine from the local version of Consumer Reports came out and Tesla was rated pretty bad and this in total score (dealer rating is way worse). Tesla is rated on par with brands like Kia and Suzuki: https://ibb.co/TgKvP2g But of course Ford is even worse here but not in the dealership rating (which I of course can't find atm. as it were in last months issue)..

Consumer Reports is known for being biased against Tesla, so take their information with a grain of salt.

Re: 2022 Ford F-150 Lightning

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Post by UncleOxidant »

jrsj wrote: post #233

There’s a lot of stereotyping of truck owners going on in this thread which is kind of funny given how pro-EV HN normally is. It’s like the aesthetics of a pickup truck is offensive to some people. Kind of bizarre and not something I’m used to seeing but I guess I live in Ohio so that probably has something to do with it. A lot of people just want to move stuff, they don’t want to like…burn your house down while wear…

> A lot of people just want to move stuff

I suspect most people with big trucks rarely use them for moving stuff. Not to say they never do, but from my observations owning a big truck has a lot more to do with signaling a certain status to others who value big trucks.

Re: 2022 Ford F-150 Lightning

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Post by [deleted] »

realreality wrote: post #495
ben7799 wrote: post #349

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Right the stereotyping here is ridiculous and full of out of control virtue signaling. If you live in an apartment complex it's ridiculous to have a truck. But Even if you own just a reasonable suburban house with a small amount of land you need to do a lot of dirty truck type jobs every year. I only have half an acre of land, but due to tons of trees I have yard work every year that causes me to have to do many many…

The concept of “yard waste” that has to be exported in a vehicle should make you see a flaw in the system. Can you change your system to use trimmings on site or nearby?

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Re: 2022 Ford F-150 Lightning

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Post by kingsuper20 »

seanalltogether wrote: post #7

I'm sure this image is heavily photoshopped, but it looks like they're trying to make a center console that's half touch screen, half physical controls. I wonder what that will look like in reality. https://www.ford.com/is/image/content/dam/vdm_ford/live/en_u...

It's odd that talking on a cell phone while driving is illegal, but messing with those user interfaces is perfectly safe.

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Post by ambicapter »

jacurtis wrote: post #449
kgermino wrote: post #328

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Pickups are convenient any many (probably most) owners have them for good reasons, but living in a Midwestern city I run into so many "bad" pickup drivers it's hard not to get frustrated with them generally. A lot of people around here have big, tall pickups with tiny beds that they drive very aggressively. They rarely use them for anything I couldn't put in my Fit (I've known several people who would never haul dirt…

> Many modern pickups have a high front grill that is dangerous for pedestrians and designed to be intimidating I get what you are trying to say, but had to mention that all front grills of vehicles are dangerous to pedestrians. It's just a bit of a strawman argument to say "Well when I hit people with my car it will be worse if I own a truck, so I'm going to own a Prius so that the pedestrians roll right off".

How is that a strawman? You will roll off a 2 foot prius grille and you will get your skull caved in and your body ejected twenty feet backwards onto asphalt with a 4-5 foot high pick up grille if you get hit.

Re: 2022 Ford F-150 Lightning

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Post by hintymad »

jrsj wrote: post #233

There’s a lot of stereotyping of truck owners going on in this thread which is kind of funny given how pro-EV HN normally is. It’s like the aesthetics of a pickup truck is offensive to some people. Kind of bizarre and not something I’m used to seeing but I guess I live in Ohio so that probably has something to do with it. A lot of people just want to move stuff, they don’t want to like…burn your house down while wear…

> burn your house down while wearing a MAGA hat or something.

That's not what I saw last year and this year on news channel. I saw "mostly peaceful" protests, or so CNN/WaPo/NYT/MSNBC/ABC told me, from justice warriors. And I don't why those media were not sticking to the truth, as everything has been peaceful. Just as my trusted author of The 1619 Project said: "Destroying property, which can be replaced, is not violence".

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Post by robotresearcher »

jacurtis wrote: post #449
kgermino wrote: post #328

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Pickups are convenient any many (probably most) owners have them for good reasons, but living in a Midwestern city I run into so many "bad" pickup drivers it's hard not to get frustrated with them generally. A lot of people around here have big, tall pickups with tiny beds that they drive very aggressively. They rarely use them for anything I couldn't put in my Fit (I've known several people who would never haul dirt…

> Many modern pickups have a high front grill that is dangerous for pedestrians and designed to be intimidating I get what you are trying to say, but had to mention that all front grills of vehicles are dangerous to pedestrians. It's just a bit of a strawman argument to say "Well when I hit people with my car it will be worse if I own a truck, so I'm going to own a Prius so that the pedestrians roll right off".

The probable outcomes of these are very different, particularly at low speeds downtown where pedestrians tend to be. Why not pay attention to that?

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Post by brewdad »

jacurtis wrote: post #449
kgermino wrote: post #328

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Pickups are convenient any many (probably most) owners have them for good reasons, but living in a Midwestern city I run into so many "bad" pickup drivers it's hard not to get frustrated with them generally. A lot of people around here have big, tall pickups with tiny beds that they drive very aggressively. They rarely use them for anything I couldn't put in my Fit (I've known several people who would never haul dirt…

> Many modern pickups have a high front grill that is dangerous for pedestrians and designed to be intimidating I get what you are trying to say, but had to mention that all front grills of vehicles are dangerous to pedestrians. It's just a bit of a strawman argument to say "Well when I hit people with my car it will be worse if I own a truck, so I'm going to own a Prius so that the pedestrians roll right off".

You are right that the front grill of any car is going to be bad news for a pedestrian. The issue I have with the higher front grills is the front blind spot they create.

https://www.theverge.com/2020/1/14/21065319/suv-truck-front-...

Re: 2022 Ford F-150 Lightning

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Post by nightski »

bluGill wrote: post #412
ben7799 wrote: post #349

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Right the stereotyping here is ridiculous and full of out of control virtue signaling. If you live in an apartment complex it's ridiculous to have a truck. But Even if you own just a reasonable suburban house with a small amount of land you need to do a lot of dirty truck type jobs every year. I only have half an acre of land, but due to tons of trees I have yard work every year that causes me to have to do many many…

Depending on how you drive and what options you get (engine is the big one), the F150 may well get the same fuel mileage if you are barely getting 20mpg. Though the real answer is a truck for times when you need a truck, and bus/bike for everything else. Too bad transit in the US is in general horrible.

I think if you are going to take an environmental stance all the city dwelling commuters (the ones who drive an hour+ each day) are the real offenders, Trucks or not.

I'm considering buying a Truck, but I work from home and drive only a few thousand miles each year or less.

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