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Re: Sublime Text 4

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Post by racl101 »

nly wrote: post #300

It's software like Sublime that sustains my faith in the software industry and why I'm still a developer. It's beautiful, efficient software that single-handedly proves that desktop software in 2021 doesn't have to be a shit, low quality side show to SaaS "apps" and mobile. Heaven knows what their code looks like. Perhaps it's best it never goes open source so we can sustain the Opera-esque magic of a <10MB binary th…

I love me my Sublime.

I like an editor that's fast enough, isn't bloated and isn't Vim.

Don't always need the IDE.

And although I can use Vim, I'm just not as efficient with it to use it 100% of the time. I learned a little to be able to work on remote servers but that's all I need. I can use a GUI editor like Sublime for the rest.

Sublime is versatile.

Re: Sublime Text 4

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Post by traspler »

ben-schaaf wrote: post #60

Hello HN, I'm one of the developers at Sublime HQ. We're all very excited about this release. If you have any questions you'd like to ask I'll do my best to answer them.

Could it be that you‘ve already been using the new GPU rendering in SublimeMerge but not ST3?

That would explain the visual corruption issues I sometimes have with Merge but not ST3. In Merge some actions, sometimes (mostly in the settings) corrupt the application window (sometimes also after minimizing and sleep) on my MacBook. To me it looked like a rendering/GPU issue. It looks like blocks of pixels having different colors, lines shifted, etc.

Re: Sublime Text 4

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Post by racl101 »

rgacote wrote: post #504
yingbo wrote: post #465

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Just for the speed of large file, on macOS, I find the BBEdit is great too. The basic functions of BBEdit can be used for free even.

Happy to see another satisfied BBEdit user. Been my go-to Mac editor since Mac Plus.

I loved BBEdit and/or TextMate for the Mac. Both were great.

I switched to Sublime after I had to work on Linux machines for a while.

Re: Sublime Text 4

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Post by api »

nly wrote: post #300

It's software like Sublime that sustains my faith in the software industry and why I'm still a developer. It's beautiful, efficient software that single-handedly proves that desktop software in 2021 doesn't have to be a shit, low quality side show to SaaS "apps" and mobile. Heaven knows what their code looks like. Perhaps it's best it never goes open source so we can sustain the Opera-esque magic of a <10MB binary th…

Desktop software is superior to web in virtually every way except:

(1) Collaborative features and syncing are easier to build when all the data lives in the cloud. There are currently no easy ways to build collaborative decentralized apps that scale and perform well and don't lose data. The best compromise solution today is probably cloud syncing, which is the Apple approach and keeps most of the brains local while using the cloud as a cache and a relay... but that tends to lead toward more and more stuff going to the cloud over time.

(2) The cloud is the only DRM that works. Cloud software can't be pirated because the user doesn't even have most of the software. At best the user gets the UI frontend in the form of obfuscated JavaScript or WASM.

(3) Due to #2, it's possible to easily collect recurring payments. "Recurring revenue" is the holy grail of virtually all businesses. Some VCs don't even consider non-recurring revenue in valuing a startup company. If your company collects $1M in one-time licenses and $100/month in subscriptions, some investors will literally chalk you up as having $100/month MRR.

(4) Cloud SaaS is a political loophole around free-as-in-beer ideology. The "information wants to be free" ideology tends to poo-poo commercial software and insist on the freedom to pirate everything, but cloud SaaS gets a free pass. Even better: with cloud SaaS you can use FOSS software without giving anything back! ... unless the license is AGPL, BSL, or Commons Clause, but those are not "true" FOSS licenses according to the FSF. (The AGPL sort of is, but it's also not strong enough to really prevent SaaSification.)

(5) Last but not least: shipping software sucks, especially on Windows. The Windows MSI installation subsystem is a horror from the deepest smoldering pit of hell. Be sure your company offers mental health benefits for PTSD treatment if you have to ask an engineer to deal with it. Mac and Linux are a little better but they are collectively only about 1/4 of the desktop market. The web offers a zero-friction "install" process that makes adoption and updates seamless and easy.

If those problems can be addressed, we can see a renaissance for real software that serves the user and doesn't have 100+ms latency for every action.

Re: Sublime Text 4

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Post by pdpi »

nly wrote: post #300

It's software like Sublime that sustains my faith in the software industry and why I'm still a developer. It's beautiful, efficient software that single-handedly proves that desktop software in 2021 doesn't have to be a shit, low quality side show to SaaS "apps" and mobile. Heaven knows what their code looks like. Perhaps it's best it never goes open source so we can sustain the Opera-esque magic of a <10MB binary th…

Their Git client (Sublime Merge) is the first graphical git tool I've felt happy with.

Re: Sublime Text 4

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Post by Arainach »

rococode wrote: post #49
SavantIdiot wrote: post #40

I feel bad using VSCode after years of supporting Sublime (by purchasing a license). However the one case where I do use sublime repeatedly? When I need to open an editor QUICKLY. It boots faster than VSCode, and frankly, it finally broke me of my constant habit of VIMming now that I have it on my mac, win and linux boxes. I am eager to try V4, but I'm so deep in VSCode now, I don't know if I can find my way out! I c…

To me, VSCode competes with IDEs, Sublime competes with text editors. Startup speed accounts for a solid 95% of that distinction. If I need to make a quick edit to a file or write down a temporary (but reasonably persistent) note, the only tools I've tried that let me do that in less than 3 seconds are Sublime, Notepad, and Notepad++. Among those choices, Sublime is the clear winner in overall usefulness and function…

I don't understand the startup time issue. Tools I use regularly like VS Code, IntelliJ, etc. are constantly running on my machine. I pay their startup cost once per reboot. Once they're running, they open files* as fast as Sublime for me. There maybe other use cases, but startup time feels pointless to me.

*files of sizes I work work. I don't care about gigabyte-sized files; if I do, vim or my existing ST3 license are good enough.

Re: Sublime Text 4

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Post by zbrozek »

I am perfectly satisfied with my existing (and now expired) Sublime Text license. Yet I just bought an upgrade anyway because I'm so happy with the software and the developer that I simply wanted to support them through further development regardless.

Re: Sublime Text 4

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Post by mroche »

softawre wrote: post #443
catillac wrote: post #433

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don’t use sublime in my day to day, but always keep it on hand because it’s the only IDE that quickly opens for viewing very large csv or similar files without a hitch. PyCharm, VSCode, Aton all barf under these conditions.

Sublime will barf if the file gets big enough too. In that case use something like HxD

How big of a file are we talking? I've had to open multi-gig Maya ASCII flies before to find broken nodes and Sublime was always my go to solution. Scrolling performance takes a hit, and the file can take some time to open, but overall works reasonably well.

Re: Sublime Text 4

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Post by copperx »

frou_dh wrote: post #352
choicenotchance wrote: post #349

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Never heard of UltraEdit in 10yrs of my career, or came across it when searching for editors and IDEs.

Just wait until 2030+ and then you may be the metaphorical boomer sticking with software no one else has heard of!

I mean, Emacs is a bit like that. Newer text editors and Vim captured all of the younger generation. I haven't met anyone using Emacs as their daily driver, except professors.

Re: Sublime Text 4

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Post by sigzero »

fclaerho wrote: post #173
forrestthewoods wrote: post #154

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Congrats on the release! I was an avid user (and paying customer!) of ST1 and ST2. Somewhere along the way I switched to VS Code. Why should I use ST4 over VS Code today?

Perfs! If you don't want to wait 4h for files to load. When I see my colleagues trying to open files on VS, I can't understand how that's acceptable.

That is not true about vscode anymore. It is fairly performant now.
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