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DarkSide ransomware gang quits after servers, Bitcoin stash seized

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Re: DarkSide ransomware gang quits after servers, Bitcoin stash seized

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Post by dougk16 »

jackson1442 wrote: post #482
dougk16 wrote: post #79

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There is at least $625,000[1] on the table already. Not to mention how many blockchain analytics companies and other actors would pay millions to have such a capability. [1] https://www.forbes.com/sites/kellyphillipserb/2020/09/14/irs...

The main reason I bring this up is this is the same promise Tor brought- “completely private” etc. And we all know how that went down: https://www.vice.com/en/article/4x3qnj/how-the-nsa-or-anyone...

I'm with you, I don't trust it's private/secure at all, but until proven otherwise it's a very interesting technological feat.

Re: DarkSide ransomware gang quits after servers, Bitcoin stash seized

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Post by tantalor »

JumpCrisscross wrote: post #519
Ekaros wrote: post #509

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I hope they will be hit with massive fines. That sort of reasoning should be absolutely unacceptable... Billing system going down should not take down critical infra...

> should be absolutely unacceptable... Billing system going down should not take down critical infra It’s a privately financed, constructed and operated pipeline. I don’t see why they should be obligated to operate without getting paid.

The real villain was capitalism all along?!

Who's been messin' up everything...

Re: DarkSide ransomware gang quits after servers, Bitcoin stash seized

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Post by waheoo »

mhluongo wrote: post #498
suifbwish wrote: post #492

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Money is pure politics. The attacker becoming rich can legally be considered a political goal as the nature of money is political. If they endanger an entity or someone else’s resources to gain that political goal they are guilty of terrorism as they used fear to enact political change.

The mental gymnastics here are incredible. I'm a frequent "everything is political" commenter myself, but since when is naked self interest through theft a political action?

These are the same types of people that claim "there are no good books" with a smirk on while suggesting books to read on white privilege after just telling you it's not his job to educate you on such matters even though he's literally being paid to sit there and educate you.

The insanity of it all is incomprehensible.

Re: DarkSide ransomware gang quits after servers, Bitcoin stash seized

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Post by ngcc_hk »

schoen wrote: post #259
TrackerFF wrote: post #202

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I got downvoted for saying that maybe it's time to treat serious ransomware attacks (infrastructure, security, health, etc.) as terrorism - as in the sense that they're a threat to the national security. But this kinda shows the response I was referencing to. A lot of people like to think of ransomware attacks as the ultimate stress test as far as security goes, and thus a good thing - but let's not get too blinded b…

Maybe people didn't like your use of the term "terrorism" for national security threats? A common understanding is that terrorism is intended to frighten people or make them feel unsafe, while various official definitions of terrorism include the idea that it's intended to coercively achieve some particular political goal. If attackers just intend to get money, they're probably well-described as extortionists (or in…

Control the language control everything. Good to hear from this clear mind.

Re: DarkSide ransomware gang quits after servers, Bitcoin stash seized

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Post by ASalazarMX »

ggggtez wrote: post #480
mathgenius wrote: post #372

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How does the scam work ? You got me curious...

Aka "three card monte". People get tricked because they don't realize it's a team of people, not just one. And if you notice the trick? Well, they out number you. You probably won't win in a fight either.

In my case, they got spooked after my wife and I moved to the side, discreetly trying to see how the guy was hiding the ball. The false onlooker tried to block our view, and when we moved a little further to the right, he signaled the others and they flew. They moved so fast that if one of them had punched me for ruining their game, I wouldn't have known what hit me.

Maybe they were ready to go anyway, but since they work in tourist traps, they probably avoid violence to attract as little attention as possible.

Re: DarkSide ransomware gang quits after servers, Bitcoin stash seized

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Post by manigandham »

bredren wrote: post #45

It was a mistake to attack the business side of the oil company, because it created what could be sold as reasonable doubt to shut down the pipeline. As a result, the ransom had the optics of an attack on infrastructure. As evidenced by the coverage of Americans desperately filling up containers. This created the impetus for the US to treat this as an incident far and above the ambient ransomware activities leading u…

It was an attack on infrastructure. Motives don't matter. This is no different than physically breaking the pipeline and saying you were just testing the material strength, it's the same outcome and will have similar consequences.

Re: DarkSide ransomware gang quits after servers, Bitcoin stash seized

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Post by mr_toad »

meowface wrote: post #500
jtchang wrote: post #497

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Exactly. Also not sure why everyone says Bitcoin is anonymous. It's as anonymous as how deep someone is willing to spend to uncover your address. If we are talking multiple nation states who are interested in tracking you down you are pretty much screwed.

The problem is the US doesn't have any jurisdiction over Russia, and the Russian government turns a blind eye to these activities (and sometimes works with certain cybercriminals) as long as Russian citizens aren't victimized. Not only will they not extradite, they won't do anything at all to address it. So another government would have to resort to extralegal methods like what ostensibly happened in this case, if it…

> Russian government turns a blind eye to these activities

Presumably in return for some sort of gratuity. Perhaps they decided they weren’t getting a big enough cut.

Re: DarkSide ransomware gang quits after servers, Bitcoin stash seized

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Post by manigandham »

gameswithgo wrote: post #457
robocat wrote: post #396

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Also perhaps a fair reason for some part of taxation. Owning millions in .*coin, and the ability to freely wander around in a first world country while not getting hit with a wrench has a whole lot of value.

Indeed, something I've tried to communicate to wealthy friends and family is that a higher tax rate,used halfway effectively, means you don't have to live in a gated community, in fear. You can roll around in your Ferrari, live where you want, and be reasonably safe.

> "used halfway effectively"

That's usually the problem that people who pay a lot of taxes have with the taxes.

Re: DarkSide ransomware gang quits after servers, Bitcoin stash seized

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Post by manigandham »

Ekaros wrote: post #509
miles wrote: post #288

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The Colonial Pipeline Is Finally Back Online and Pumping Gas https://www.thedrive.com/news/40583/the-colonial-pipeline-is... > New details from within Colonial Pipeline have come to light surrounding the decision to shut off supply. Those briefed on the matter have suggested that fuel flows were shut down due to the company's billing system being compromised. Company officials were reportedly concerned that they woul…

I hope they will be hit with massive fines. That sort of reasoning should be absolutely unacceptable... Billing system going down should not take down critical infra...

Billing/reservation systems going down would take down logistics in many infrastructures, whether it's pipelines, airlines, trucking or anything else.
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