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How is that accurate? It's still a bad analogy, but it puts fewer words in my mouth. If there is a line from 'Youtube deleted my video' to 'the government rounded me up and threw me in a sanitarium' it's not a direct one.
Yes but that won't stop you from drawing/rationalizing _any_ conclusions from a set of facts. Not all of them will be right and fewer even will make any sense. Which is indeed your prerogative until you mess with the laws of physics and start believing that because you move your arms very quickly you can fly, and that will stop you from falling off of a cliff. There is a five-whys strategy to go to some bottom of an…
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Re: YouTube blocked chess channel after mistaken detection of racial slurs
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Well, yes, everyone feels that way, but whose feelings are well-founded and whose aren't? This is the difference between "we are banning substance X because we did a controlled experiment and found it to be carcinogenic", and "we are banning X because we are afraid of ghosts".
> whose feelings are well-founded and whose aren't? This is the gist of it and is really hard to tell, even though some people claim it’s easy. I would measure what side makes sense based on their recommended interventions. For example, if one side is so certain they want to ban speech that contradicts them then they are probably wrong. It takes pretty clear evidence for what is right and wrong and lots of effort to…
It seems to me that people are nearly universally assuming that this is easy, and that obviously their side is always absolutely correct, and questioning that is basically heretic. This is how we end up always blaming the evil other side, and with "you're either with us or against us".
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Essentually you are saying: "The other side is wrong, and my side is right." It's not really a nuanced point about the broader issue of speech.
I'm not on either side. I don't even live in the United States. But one side, the Republican side, is batshitinsane and believes things that are provably untrue - Obama is a Muslim, climate change is a Chinese hoax, COVID-19 is the flu, that sort of thing. The Democrats are just run-of-the-mill, low-energy centrist politicians.
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Yes but that won't stop you from drawing/rationalizing _any_ conclusions from a set of facts. Not all of them will be right and fewer even will make any sense. Which is indeed your prerogative until you mess with the laws of physics and start believing that because you move your arms very quickly you can fly, and that will stop you from falling off of a cliff. There is a five-whys strategy to go to some bottom of an…
I think there's a misunderstanding? The comment 'Soviets put their dissidents into mental hospitals' was a reply to a comment by me . I provided an example (with which I, naturally enough, disagree) of a criticism of my original comment that would be, at least, somewhat fair.
I think I replied to assimilation of the idea of totalitarian regime institutionalizing otherwise mentally healthy people for dissidence to merely not letting them vent on radio.
Indirect lines explaining seemingly unrelated concepts are everywhere. They even made some shows about that. However, linking these two particular concepts together is strange.
Re: YouTube blocked chess channel after mistaken detection of racial slurs
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"graduate degree" (pronounced gra-jə-wət) is generally understood to mean master's degree (or uncommonly, PhD). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Graduate_school
So according to your link and yourself, a graduate degree may encompass both master's and doctoral degrees, which would only serve to obscure the meaning. Also, I don't think you intended it to be this way, but your inclusion of the pronunciation comes off as condescending.
> a graduate degree may encompass both master's and doctoral degrees, which would only serve to obscure the meaning.
Nope, 99% of the time "graduate degree" == "master's degree". Usually "postgraduate degree" is used to refer to doctoral degrees. "graduate degree" is very common and generally unambiguous.
"undergraduate degree" = bachelor's degree, etc.
"graduate degree" = master's degree, etc.
"postgraduate degree" = doctorate, etc.
Re: YouTube blocked chess channel after mistaken detection of racial slurs
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Agreed 100%. The fact that people are downvoting just shows how ridiculous the double standard is when it comes to racism. First, racism is not the olympics. Nobody wins. Even when its people "punching up". However, it is quickly becoming acceptable. Take a look at Western Europe and the the level of anti-semitism from the Muslim, Arab and some local community. It's disgusting. You'd think that Europe would have root…
Very good points! These are the same kind of points I have tried to bring up to commenters on Reddit before and I get called racist and told I don't understand. Of course they never try to help me "understand" whatever their "problem" is, but they sure know how to lay out some insults and use their "ism"s. I think the Malcolm X quote is a very powerful one that accurately represents what is currently going on. I'll q…
I will have to read/watch more documentaries on Malcom X. It's sad that many African American youth have abandoned the warnings of MLK to not descend into violence and break bad because he knew that would be used as tools for oppression.
Also I don't disagree with BLM in it's entirety I do think it started out of good faith but its evolved into something totally unbecoming.
They are fighting each other for power and prestige, and the one that is the football in the game is the Negro, 20 million black people. A political football, a political pawn, an economic football, and economic pawn. A social football, a social pawn. The liberal elements of whites are those who have perfected the art of selling themselves to the Negro as a friend of the Negro. Getting sympathy of the Negro, getting the allegiance of the Negro, and getting the mind of the Negro. Then the Negro sides with the white liberal, and the white liberal use the Negro against the white conservative.
Now you replace the football with other minorities and you have our modern North American political landscape and the whole Carlsen's #MoveForEquality virtue signaling, banning the user of "master" in github and real estate, the whole "amen and awomen" thing, professor getting chased out because Chinese filler word he used sounded like the N word and non-Chinese American students
found it offensive, going to another country as American and demanding the same values and morals from the locals while not bothering to take the time to learn the customs (the constant shaming and review bombing of Japanese Only or Koreans Only establishments in those respective countries because they had unruly foreign patrons who re fuse to learn the language and respect their customs) are all turning North America into something of a foolery. It's being destroyed from within with its cancel culture, placing the individual above society, echo chambers. It's like watching an American remake of the Cultural Revolution that took place in Mao's China.The virtue signaling industrial complex in North America is getting insane in North America. It is big business and in fact its destroying and moving us away from progress.
I think that one day where everything returns to normal is a distant future and its better off living in another country where they don't tolerate the vilification of critical thinkers.
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I believe you 100% can. If someone's opinion based on solid facts is being dismissed by calling them a "privileged white male" I definitely believe that is very racist. They are making assumptions based on negative stereotypes to dismiss what someone is saying. Even if you don't agree that it is racist you should at least agree it is not productive at all in a conversation. The only objective with a comment like that…
Someone’s opinion based on solid fact? So is it a fact or an opinion? If you view their reply as not productive and they view your statement as not productive... then maybe stop having that discussion until you can both bring more empathy to the table.
Facts don't always tell a story or explain the "why". Often times you have to form an opinion based on the facts and that is what you're bringing to the table when discussing stuff. I don't see why I need to explain this concept on a site like this.
Re: YouTube blocked chess channel after mistaken detection of racial slurs
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So according to your link and yourself, a graduate degree may encompass both master's and doctoral degrees, which would only serve to obscure the meaning. Also, I don't think you intended it to be this way, but your inclusion of the pronunciation comes off as condescending.
I only included the pronunciation because you used a version of "graduate" in your original comment that has a different pronunciation and different meaning. (gra-jə-wāt vs. gra-jə-wət) > a graduate degree may encompass both master's and doctoral degrees, which would only serve to obscure the meaning. Nope, 99% of the time "graduate degree" == "master's degree". Usually "postgraduate degree" is used to refer to docto…
I've never seen people use the terms this way, and every source I find confirms what I have consistently seen in use, that “graduate degree” and “post-graduate degree” are synonyms that refer to academic (usually not professional, though that varies by context) degrees which typically require a preceding degree of bachelor’s or higher.
Re: YouTube blocked chess channel after mistaken detection of racial slurs
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Then why would race be relevant? Why would someone not just say "you're too privileged to understand"? Why would they instead say "you're just a privileged white male and don't understand"? I disagree with that logic you are using. Your logic seems racist to me. You are assuming a black person = less privileged and a white person = more privileged. I view both of these assumptions as racist. I think it is wrong to as…
Fogest, I want to thank you for motivating me to get away from this site. Good luck with sorting out your feelings on this.
You came at me saying "List me some “racist things being said about white people” you have seen on the internet so we can all see...". I provided you an explanation and link and your response is that you're leaving now. If you're that upset by me saying some facts/opinions then maybe avoid comment section, I don't know what to tell you.
Re: YouTube blocked chess channel after mistaken detection of racial slurs
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This is the problem. People will choose to ignore context and other grammatical history because of their own personal incorrect views. It's not like the word "black" is just used with blacklist. We also use it in other places like black market, black hat, and black site. None of these are related to black people, but instead all relate to a shady dark/scary side of things like you mentioned. When someone pictures a b…
> None of these are related to black people, but instead all relate to a shady dark/scary side of things like you mentioned. Isn't it the other way around though? Black people skin is not of color black as in actual black. And white people skin is certainly not white. It's the naming of skin tone that is sloppy and figurative. While the association of white with light/visibility and black with darkness/unknown is nat…
Overall I think the logic of opposing words like "blacklist" just falls apart logically in multiple areas and I think your explanation is a good example of why.