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California law bans delivery apps from listing a restaurant without an agreement

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Re: California law bans delivery apps from listing a restaurant without an agreement

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These companies copy my menu, images and all. Mark up the prices incredibly. Market my menu to customers with inflated prices as if they are the restaurant prices. Then they also charge a delivery fee on top.

Customer drives by the bricks a week later and keeps driving because I have terrible prices.

Worst of all I have no idea the transactions are happening, and the companies are directing drivers to not divulge they are not the actual customer.

Re: California law bans delivery apps from listing a restaurant without an agreement

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These companies copy my menu, images and all. Mark up the prices incredibly. Market my menu to customers with inflated prices as if they are the restaurant prices. Then they also charge a delivery fee on top. Customer drives by the bricks a week later and keeps driving because I have terrible prices. Worst of all I have no idea the transactions are happening, and the companies are directing drivers to not divulge the…

Curious how they are getting your menu?

Do you have a website and they scrape it? Or did they physically pay a mechanical Turk or some similar process to type it out, then mark it up 20%+?

Re: California law bans delivery apps from listing a restaurant without an agreement

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Legally the only way to acquire restaurant food over here atm is takeout or delivery. They can't just not offer it.

so the remedy is to implement a law that will live forever, even as we expect covid to (hopefully) recede this year?

This specific issue was an issue pre-pandemic as well. The surge in take-out has amplified the problem.

Re: California law bans delivery apps from listing a restaurant without an agreement

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Who is old enough to remember the McDLT? https://youtu.be/UTSdUOC8Kac

I am. And it was dropped because when McDonalds stopped using styrofoam they couldn't make it work any more. There is an irony in that. We went from a society that uses styrofoam to paper cups. Never mind that styrofoam is one of the most easily recycled substances we have, while the wax on paper cups makes them destined for the landfill.

I'm not sure where you live, but here in SF, waxed paper and cardboard go in the compost bin.

Re: California law bans delivery apps from listing a restaurant without an agreement

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Them not wanting to handle their own problems is not a reason for the State to subsidize solutions for them.

The entire purpose of legislature is to legislate solutions to problems that society faces.

Not to legislate solutions to private businesses' disputes.

Re: California law bans delivery apps from listing a restaurant without an agreement

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This is fair point but what stops these businesses from refusing to do food pick up. Especially, if they know food won't taste good if not consumed within a few minutes. I rather resturants remove to-go option instead of blaming delivery companies.

In my friend's case, it's because people in the neighborhood sometimes like to pick things up. Why should they penalize those people just because delivery companies have without their permission decided to start advertising their food?

Agreed, and this reminds me of friend who started to carry foldable chairs and table in their car during lockdown. They would, sometimes, set those up in the parking lot of the restaurant and eat there.

However, perhaps a solution might be a labeler that prints a label with consume by time and attach the label to carryout container. Or some other kind of disclaimer on the containers. Yes, this adds burden on the restaurants but hopefully, reduces negative reviews.

Re: California law bans delivery apps from listing a restaurant without an agreement

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I am. And it was dropped because when McDonalds stopped using styrofoam they couldn't make it work any more. There is an irony in that. We went from a society that uses styrofoam to paper cups. Never mind that styrofoam is one of the most easily recycled substances we have, while the wax on paper cups makes them destined for the landfill.

> styrofoam is one of the most easily recycled substances Is that actually true? I've always heard to put styrofoam in trash rather than recycling.

It is.

I had a friend whose father was a chemical engineer back in the 1980s who did a study on it. The cost per cubic yard to recycle styrofoam was insanely cheap. It was just that it required a specialized process that nobody implemented because creating more was also cheap. So it wasn't recycled, but it could have been.

Re: California law bans delivery apps from listing a restaurant without an agreement

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This is undeniably a good thing if you put yourself in the shoes of the restaurant. Imagine if someone went around impersonating your business online, leveraging the good name you have built for yourself over the decades. They create ads offering your expert development services, ostensibly competing with your existing website, but with intentionally slashed pricing and a ‘creatively’ misrepresented offering (aka gro…

Yeah it's extremely weird. Nintendo will call lawyers on you if there is even a hint of a trade mark violation yet when restaurants are directly being defrauded there is no recourse.

We're at the onset of some kind of disruption of this norm around IP: If it's possible to automatically detect copyright violations, it's also within reach to give users tools that procedurally generate an infininum of infringing content, none of which can be litigated profitably by the corporation("swarm of bees" effects).

Re: California law bans delivery apps from listing a restaurant without an agreement

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Wouldn't this be a problem for any takeout order? I know some restaurants don't offer takeout for this reason.

Some foods definitely work better than others. As others have noted, pizza usually does. And Asian stir fry type dishes are mostly pretty decent. Basic fried chicken (or rotisserie chicken) are fine too actually. They're not totally top drawer fried chicken like you get at a good restaurant that specializes in it but it's pretty good heated up in the oven. Soups. Etc. And then there are a lot of foods that just aren'…

I was talking about the specific restaurant mentioned in the comment I was responding to.
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