Tivo started running a commercial before watching a recorded show. Ads in the Comcast menu was one reason I switched to Tivo.
Samsung TV owners complain about increasingly obtrusive ads
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Re: Samsung TV owners complain about increasingly obtrusive ads
#532Fuck the guy who wanted to suck up to the management in some stupid meeting projecting estimated revenue out of this to ask for a raise later because he "contributed to a revenue increase" to the company. There's absolutely no after thought to this decision - If I paid 1000s of dollars for an "idiot box" that's supposed to reproduce faithfully the signal that I pass it, showing ads is unacceptable, no matter what the…
If you want a dumb box, can't you just un-network the TV itself? I don't see the point of smart TV's personally. It's way easier to just use a Roku or AppleTV or w/e. We have Sony's and the built-in smart TV platform is a horrible experience compared to Roku.
Re: Samsung TV owners complain about increasingly obtrusive ads
#533Earlier quoted context omitted.
In some stupid meeting somewhere: A: ...and in conclusion, it's a win-win situation. Users will benefit from ads and our revenue will go up. B: People don't like ads on their TV. A: But they do. I refer you to slides 18 through 25 where you can see engagement metrics for our ad rollout on the old model. If people wouldn't like ads they wouldn't be clicking on them so much . B: I don't like ads. Do you like ads on you…
I suspect that a large part of this ad- and marketing-driven economy is based on this. The reason they predict their revenue will go up (which it will, at least in the short term until the market adjusts) is because they have a lot of customers already lined up to pay them to show ads on their TVs. Those customers' marketing departments decided to pay money to include their ads on TVs because a similar process was fo…
I assume Google cannibalizes more brand power than it actually creates.
Re: Samsung TV owners complain about increasingly obtrusive ads
#534It's not just ads. "Smart" TVs can also capture what you see and send that information home.
The OP blog post taka about that. It's called ACR
Re: Samsung TV owners complain about increasingly obtrusive ads
#535Earlier quoted context omitted.
In some stupid meeting somewhere: A: ...and in conclusion, it's a win-win situation. Users will benefit from ads and our revenue will go up. B: People don't like ads on their TV. A: But they do. I refer you to slides 18 through 25 where you can see engagement metrics for our ad rollout on the old model. If people wouldn't like ads they wouldn't be clicking on them so much . B: I don't like ads. Do you like ads on you…
This reminds me of one of my favorite quotes for understanding business and the modern world in general: "It is difficult to get a man to understand something when his salary depends upon his not understanding it." —Upton Sinclair https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Upton_Sinclair
It took seemingly forever, but eventually we (mostly) got HN commenters to stop saying "LOL Betteridge's law of headlines!", along with a Wikipedia link as if we hadn't heard it a hundred times before, to every article. Hopefully we can get to that point with this stupid quote too.
Re: Samsung TV owners complain about increasingly obtrusive ads
#536Fuck the guy who wanted to suck up to the management in some stupid meeting projecting estimated revenue out of this to ask for a raise later because he "contributed to a revenue increase" to the company. There's absolutely no after thought to this decision - If I paid 1000s of dollars for an "idiot box" that's supposed to reproduce faithfully the signal that I pass it, showing ads is unacceptable, no matter what the…
In some stupid meeting somewhere: A: ...and in conclusion, it's a win-win situation. Users will benefit from ads and our revenue will go up. B: People don't like ads on their TV. A: But they do. I refer you to slides 18 through 25 where you can see engagement metrics for our ad rollout on the old model. If people wouldn't like ads they wouldn't be clicking on them so much . B: I don't like ads. Do you like ads on you…
You forgot to add:
"We need to think of our devices as small hyper local billboards with untapped potential"
Re: Samsung TV owners complain about increasingly obtrusive ads
#537they already put ads on their 1400€ phones, so this is not surprising.
hopefully it ends badly for them on the long term
Re: Samsung TV owners complain about increasingly obtrusive ads
#538Earlier quoted context omitted.
I don't trust most smart TVs, that's why I bought a dumb TV from TCL. If I want any fancy smart functions, I'll just connect an android box via HDMI.
I would love to do this, but dumb TVs pretty much top out at the upper-mid range. If you want a high end panel you're getting all the bullshit too, unfortunately.
You can turn off the smart features on a Vizio TV by declining the ACR terms during set up. It essentially makes it a dumb TV.
Best part is, the TVs are essentially subsidized by ACR and selling your data so you’re getting a deal by not paying the “data tax.”
Re: Samsung TV owners complain about increasingly obtrusive ads
#539Earlier quoted context omitted.
Why can't they just fix their user interface? Nobody in the world I have talked to thinks this is the best choice of interfaces. I don't need a dedicated TV keyboard. As I said, I work around it by using the TV apps, but it's annoying, and the most annoying part is that it's probably annoying on purpose to get people more on their phone.
I don't think it is on purpose to get people on their phone. Most people just don't use the keyboard much, I would guess. I never do, except for signing up for new apps. So I would agree with their design decision: make an elegant remote, use voice dictation for search and the like, if you need a keyboard, use your iPhone, and if you are not happy with that, get a dedicated keyboard. If you are not happy with THAT, w…
I am spending way more energy on this thread than is healthy :D
But I can understand where you're coming from, I am just very frustrated that this user-interface-design-genius trillion dollar company can not change the input mechanism of one of their most used product from the:
a b c d e [f] g h i j k etc... Backspace
model with only movement and no way to make an input correction other than backspace, to something like:
a b c d Backspace
e f [g] h forward
i j k l backward
m n o p
Re: Samsung TV owners complain about increasingly obtrusive ads
#540Earlier quoted context omitted.
Well it's more like "people hate ads, but next time they buy a new TV, the ads will make our TV $10 cheaper than the other guy and they'll buy it anyway" It's the same thing in the airline industry - people will complain all day long about legroom and being treated as cattle, but the next time they buy a ticket they vote with their wallets when they sort the flight list by price and choose the cheapest option.
Airlines are controlled and limited by regulation to where its no longer "free" and you can't vote with your dollar cause you are a guarantee. There are very few airlines that offer more legroom and even then it's not comfortable. Same with telecoms. TV industry lacks competition in this regard as well but largely due to the centralized manufacturing. I also blame modern ip law as many of these companies have redicul…
At least in the states. Most airlines I fly have an option for a premium seat that costs more and has more leg room.