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Re: Twitter hides Donald Trump tweet for “glorifying violence”

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Post by fullshark »

disease wrote: post #516

For everyone bashing Twitter's actions, including the President, why don't they just leave the platform for Gab or something else?

Clearly rhetorical, but the reason is that's where the audience is. They will tolerate a lot for that reason but there's presumably some limit. I would not be surprised if whenever Trump leaves office, he announces he's leaving twitter for some twitter clone he's a part owner of geared for conservative audiences. He might be big enough and important enough to his supporters for this exodus to actually be meaningful.

Don't think he'll do it until he loses an election or his 2nd term is up though.

Re: Twitter hides Donald Trump tweet for “glorifying violence”

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Post by rayiner »

reportingsjr wrote: post #525
rayiner wrote: post #523

What kind of utterly ridiculous policy is hiding posts for “glorifying violence?” So if I write a post about the Bangladeshi independence war, saying how great it was that we beat those damn Pakistanis, my post would get hidden?

When you threaten to start shooting people you are glorifying violence. I am guessing you didn't even look at the tweets.

So if I say it was great that India came in with guns blazing in 1971, killing thousands of Pakistani soldiers to liberate Bangladesh, that is a view that should be censored?

Re: Twitter hides Donald Trump tweet for “glorifying violence”

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Post by apcragg »

jpadkins wrote: post #515
partiallypro wrote: post #333

Twitter is well within the rights to do this, but I have seen tweets from blue check marks essentially calling for violence and Twitter didn't remove them. So, does that mean Twitter actually -supports- those view points now? If Twitter is going to police people, it needs to be across the board. Otherwise it's just a weird censorship that is targeting one person and can easily be seen as political. Everyone is applau…

> essentially calling for violence Ironic that a microblogging service leads to lack of nuance. who would of thought? My first read of trump's tweet was explaining the national guard has to move in because 'looting leads to shooting'. As in, we have to restore order to avoid more people getting shot. At the time Trump tweeted this, there was already one death from a pawn store owner shooting a looter. So depending on…

Don't be so disingenuous. The phrase is famous and it obviously is obviously not intent on trying to quell violence. I know to be contrarian and radically 'rational' is popular among tech types but it doesn't mean you have to bury your head in the sand when what is being said is so clear.

Re: Twitter hides Donald Trump tweet for “glorifying violence”

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Post by gameswithgo »

efitz wrote: post #521
Jestar342 wrote: post #461

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Erm, what? This is just not true, and is a false dichotomy. Moderation is hard. Always has been. Stuff will slip through the cracks. POTUS has the most popular (and currently most controversial - note, that's _controversial_ not _extreme_ or some other morph) so it's easy to see why Twitter are on top of it. Other blue-checked accounts, whilst more "important" than unverified, just simply don't compare to the importa…

If most of the mistakes happen in one direction, then I would argue that there's some other mechanism at work than just "mistakes". Update: data https://quillette.com/2019/02/12/it-isnt-your-imagination-tw... Update: admission https://www.vox.com/2018/9/14/17857622/twitter-liberal-emplo...

Maybe conservative america needs to appeal to people smart enough to start their own tech companies, so they can compete in the free market to do things the way they like.

Re: Twitter hides Donald Trump tweet for “glorifying violence”

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Post by Simulacra »

Twitter has become the example of right vs left. I don't think this tweet "glorifies" violence, but my opinion doesn't matter, only Twitter's. That herein is the problem. It would be interesting if Trump left twitter and made the journalists follow him to some other platform.

Re: Twitter hides Donald Trump tweet for “glorifying violence”

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Post by rayiner »

partiallypro wrote: post #333

Twitter is well within the rights to do this, but I have seen tweets from blue check marks essentially calling for violence and Twitter didn't remove them. So, does that mean Twitter actually -supports- those view points now? If Twitter is going to police people, it needs to be across the board. Otherwise it's just a weird censorship that is targeting one person and can easily be seen as political. Everyone is applau…

Seriously. Twitter and Facebook are full of liberals talking about "bringing back the guillotine" but I don't see any of that getting censored.

Re: Twitter hides Donald Trump tweet for “glorifying violence”

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Post by Simulacra »

fortran77 wrote: post #529
Animats wrote: post #79

Twitter policy: "We start from a position of assuming that people do not intend to violate our Rules. Unless a violation is so egregious that we must immediately suspend an account, we first try to educate people about our Rules and give them a chance to correct their behavior. We show the violator the offending Tweet(s), explain which Rule was broken, and require them to remove the content before they can Tweet agai…

It depends on who and what. And it's the inconsistency that will fuel the critics. They didn't suspend Spike Lee who caused direct harm to a private individual who happened to share a name with an infamous individual: https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/spike-lee-settles-twi...

Because suspending Spike Lee would have required someone at Twitter to make that decision, and they're not going to do that. But will leap at the chance for Trump. It's been a clear double standard for years.

Re: Twitter hides Donald Trump tweet for “glorifying violence”

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Post by Simulacra »

tehwebguy wrote: post #179
bilbo0s wrote: post #131

In fairness, Trump's tweets are not about actually doing anything, they are more about getting votes. So arguing the feasibility of suggestions outlined in a Trump tweet kind of misses the point.

It was a message, directly to law enforcement, that he thinks it’s okay for them to shoot protestors so long as there is looting. I can’t see how anyone would see that as anything other than a crime against humanity

No, I don't think it was. A plain reading of the quote does not direct anyone, to do, anything. It is an observation. Just like it was your observation (and opinion) that it said something different.

The questions are this: Who is right? Who decides that?

Re: Twitter hides Donald Trump tweet for “glorifying violence”

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Post by empath75 »

Simulacra wrote: post #537
fortran77 wrote: post #529

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It depends on who and what. And it's the inconsistency that will fuel the critics. They didn't suspend Spike Lee who caused direct harm to a private individual who happened to share a name with an infamous individual: https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/spike-lee-settles-twi...

Because suspending Spike Lee would have required someone at Twitter to make that decision, and they're not going to do that. But will leap at the chance for Trump. It's been a clear double standard for years.

You’re wrong on every point.

Re: Twitter hides Donald Trump tweet for “glorifying violence”

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Post by pknopf »

Simulacra wrote: post #537
fortran77 wrote: post #529

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It depends on who and what. And it's the inconsistency that will fuel the critics. They didn't suspend Spike Lee who caused direct harm to a private individual who happened to share a name with an infamous individual: https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/spike-lee-settles-twi...

Because suspending Spike Lee would have required someone at Twitter to make that decision, and they're not going to do that. But will leap at the chance for Trump. It's been a clear double standard for years.

Plenty of left-leaning people get banned as well.
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