Doesn't Peter Norvig work at google? maybe they should pick up his book
Shirt Without Stripes
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#532its obvious but the solution is shirt -stripes until we make ai interpret attributes
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#533Humans can kind of make some assumptions based on context, but it's really just a poorly defined, vague query.
What if you walked into a store and asked an associate for a shirt without stripes? What would you get?
Probably some further questions for clarification. What about checked shirts? Floral prints? Plaid? Do you want no pattern at all? T-shirt? Polo shirt? Dress shirt?
Granted, the AI results are particularly bad because they give you the one thing that you specifically didn't ask for, but that's also the only information you provided. Defining a query in terms of what you don't instead of what you do isn't going to go well.
What if you went to google and said "Show me all the webpages that aren't about elephants"? Sure, you'd get something, but would it be anything useful?
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#534Perhaps, but would you really say "Hi, I'm wearing a shirt without stripes"?
It's a completely artificial construct. Simply the fact that this hacker-news entry is the #1 search result shows that real human people do not perform this search in significant quantity. But we can quantify that with data to backup the assumption [1][2]. When people want to buy a shirt without stripes, they do not describe the shirt by what it doesn't have.
In fact, it's trivial to cherry pick a random selection of words that on the face of it sounds like something a human might search for, but it turns out never occurs in practice. Add to that the fact that the term is being searched without quotes [3], which results in the negation not actually being attached to anything.
Do you go to a store to buy it along with your Pants Without Suspenders, Socks Without Animal Print, and other items defined purely by what they don't have?
[1] https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?geo=US&q=%22white%2... [2] https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?geo=US&q=%22plain%2... [3] https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?geo=US&q=plain%20sh...
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#535Earlier quoted context omitted.
I've noticed this too, and frequently wonder why there aren't new and better search startups...
There are, like DuckDuckGo. But the first complaint is usually "their results aren't as good as Google" and that's because Google in reality still gives better results because of their (lack of) privacy. People want better results but don't want to be tracked, and those things are in opposition to each other.
Yeah I guess it comes down to monetization strategy and how loyal/sympathetic the early adopters are.
It's funny because it's frequently mentioned how Google's tracking is what enables it to give such personalized search results, but often I question how effective that really is.
For instance I question if Google has some profile on me and shows results they _think_ I will want to see (e.g. news related), and thus leave out other results. If it works that way then I'm frequently seeing the same websites in my results and effectively being siloed and shielded from other results that I may find interesting.
Their new strategy of adding snippets for everything has truly gone insane. I search a query for "covid us deaths" today and had to scroll about 3 viewport lengths down to even see the first result.
What happened to just a plain list of blue links?
From a marketing perspective, I feel like DDG needs to change it's name or use a shortened alias. "Google" is an incredible word as it's easy to spell, remember, and it's short. Interestingly they own "duck.com"...
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#536Earlier quoted context omitted.
Spotify & YouTube Premium run without ads just fine, so why wouldn't it work for search engines? Text is way more compressible then music and video. So at least on serving data it is way more cheaper than the aforementioned services
Because an MBA will realize that they're "leaving money on the table" and not "maximizing shareholder value" by selling ad free subscription services. Subscription based services also require you to be authenticated and that enables fine grained invasive tracking. Something traditional media couldn't do. If delivery costs were a factor then I shouldn't be charged $15 for an ebook with near zero distribution costs whe…
Paperbacks were never $5 unless you were looking in the bargain bin.
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#537Earlier quoted context omitted.
At least this is relatively innocuous. Until recently if you did a Google Image Search for "person" or "people", it only showed white men.
One can play this game a lot and most results will return expected cultural biased results. A "kind person" is apparently a white girl. A "good person", a white woman. A "bad person", white men. A "evil person", white men. A "honest person", equal mix of white women and white men. "Dishonest person", white men in suits. "Generous person", hands of white women. "Happy person", women of color. "Unhappy person", old whi…
Down voted because this is just a lie.
"Kind person" - pictures of men women, children, of all ages and colors.
"good person" - Mostly pictures of two hands holding. No clear bias towards women at all. If anything, more of the hands look "male".
"Bad person" - Nearly 100% cartoon characters
Absolutely ridiculous that you would take the time to write up such fake nonsense.
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#538Earlier quoted context omitted.
Because an MBA will realize that they're "leaving money on the table" and not "maximizing shareholder value" by selling ad free subscription services. Subscription based services also require you to be authenticated and that enables fine grained invasive tracking. Something traditional media couldn't do. If delivery costs were a factor then I shouldn't be charged $15 for an ebook with near zero distribution costs whe…
Paperbacks were never $5 unless you were looking in the bargain bin.
Pulp novels were. Even in this millennium.
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#539It’s like the plot in the movie Inception. How to plan an idea “don’t think elepant” to an human idea?
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#540Most important is what the advertisements at the top show. The organic results are so yesterday. The Google Ads AI should already be teaching you that All you base belong to us.