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Re: Firefox 72.0

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Post by ViViDboarder »

jensimmons wrote: post #500
fauigerzigerk wrote: post #84

Here's my Firefox wishlist: - Open new windows more quickly. Firefox feels sluggish (on Mac) even though it isn't, simply because it opens new windows far more slowly than Safari or Chrome. - Use the platform native key store. I don't want my passwords stored unencrypted on disk. But I don't want to enter a separate master password either. I do want to use fingerprint/face unlock on mobile to reveal passwords. - Give…

> I don't want my passwords stored unencrypted on disk. Passwords are always stored encrypted when you save them in Firefox. You can read more about it here: https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/how-firefox-securely-sa...

Same with Chrome actually. Your best bet is to use a proper password manager that integrates well.

Re: Firefox 72.0

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Post by ViViDboarder »

OskarS wrote: post #438
rtpg wrote: post #394

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"Why are my notifications for Slack not working?"

"Because you've declined to get notifications for Slack" This does not seem like a reasonable complaint to me.

But the application would have no way of knowing that to display this message to the user if the browser lies about it.

Re: Firefox 72.0

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Post by fauigerzigerk »

forgotpwd16 wrote: post #529
fauigerzigerk wrote: post #327

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On the Mac, Safari and Chrome store passwords in a key chain. To reveal any of those passwords you have to re-enter your macOS login password or whatever authentication method was used to log into the device (fingerprint, face ID, ...). So it's not the program that is authenticated. The system simply makes sure that any program accessing that particularly sensitive data is really controlled by the logged in user. Thi…

>Chrome store passwords in a key chain Really? I thought Chrome, same as Firefox, stored credentials in an SQL file, the reason behind it being profiles and its built-in sync service.

It appears you're right. Chrome doesn't actually use the system key chain underneath, but the UX is exactly the same as Safari.

Autofill doesn't require password entry, but before revealing any stored passwords you have to re-authenticate using the regular system login method.

I wish Firefox did the same.

Re: Firefox 72.0

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Post by egberts1 »

What the hey? No hash values posted after downloading the Firefox binary.

How can we tell that we got the real deal, especially if the original Firefox binary got compromised?

Re: Firefox 72.0

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Post by forgotpwd16 »

fauigerzigerk wrote: post #533
forgotpwd16 wrote: post #529

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>Chrome store passwords in a key chain Really? I thought Chrome, same as Firefox, stored credentials in an SQL file, the reason behind it being profiles and its built-in sync service.

It appears you're right. Chrome doesn't actually use the system key chain underneath, but the UX is exactly the same as Safari. Autofill doesn't require password entry, but before revealing any stored passwords you have to re-authenticate using the regular system login method. I wish Firefox did the same.

That's interesting and I wonder how they do it. Nevertheless this isn't good as it offers a false security sense since the end result is similar to using a master password which is the same as the login password.

Re: Firefox 72.0

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Post by Piskvorrr »

fauigerzigerk wrote: post #181
makecheck wrote: post #170

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The window-opening animation might be a factor (applies across all of macOS). You can disable it for all windows in all applications using a terminal command: defaults write NSGlobalDomain NSAutomaticWindowAnimationsEnabled -bool NO You might need to restart apps to see this change.

Brilliant! It works. Thank you so much!

So, an OS setting makes FF look bad (...in comparison to the OS-integrated browser). Where have I seen that?

Re: Firefox 72.0

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Post by Piskvorrr »

saagarjha wrote: post #406
Caspy7 wrote: post #404

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> 'switching to Firefox' isn't something anyone actually has to do. Just start using it for one thing or another and any complete change will happen naturally This is going to vary with different people. Have you heard the phrase "Default is destiny"? This is especially true for less technical people (the majority of web users). Personally I'm not going to dabble, rather keeping to the safe and familiar, so I have to…

Chrome isn't the default on a lot of platforms.

Sure it isn't. Had to set up a Windows 10 laptop recently, and the amount of hoops I had to jump through, just to wrestle the default browser from Edge...!

Re: Firefox 72.0

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Post by Piskvorrr »

thrwaway69 wrote: post #412
coldfire wrote: post #376

As a long time Chrome user, and someone who (admittedly) said to a FF fan about an year ago, that it's too late for FF to catch up to Chrome now. I gave FF another shot about 6 months ago, and I'm liking it more every month since then. It has been my primary browser outside of work, the major reason I use Chrome now is for Chrome Dev Tools. Also, some websites don't behave well in FF and I find that most of the time…

Both Chrome and Firefox doesn't work for me. I am sad how tab management isn't given priority on both. Chrome is especially annoying with it hiding the tabs after certain number of them and Firefox takes too much space and crashes often. There is no tab stacking, auto closing, sorting, filtering and multi previews built in. I switched to vilvadi last year and it has been a breeze. On mobile, I don't have any preferen…

My only beef with Vivaldi is the lack of proxy settings.

Re: Firefox 72.0

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Post by ric2b »

ViViDboarder wrote: post #532
OskarS wrote: post #438

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"Because you've declined to get notifications for Slack" This does not seem like a reasonable complaint to me.

But the application would have no way of knowing that to display this message to the user if the browser lies about it.

"Check if you have notifications enabled for Slack on your browser's settings"

Re: Firefox 72.0

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Post by ric2b »

radicalriddler wrote: post #296
hedora wrote: post #94

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Slack has started disabling unrelated features if you disallow notifications. For instance, you can’t add channels to the “ignore @here” list if notifications are off. I’m sure this’ll get worse over time. FF needs a “disable notifications, but lie to the website and say they’re enabled” button.

I feel like if a specific browser, ie. Firefox went down this path, it wouldn't take long until websites stopped supporting that browser. It'd take browser wide action to take on big players such as Slack imo.

Unless a huge number of websites cooperate, they will all think it's useless for them individually to "fight the power".
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