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Re: Tesla Software Version 10.0

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Post by marvin »

theshrike79 wrote: post #520
tonyedgecombe wrote: post #500

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It works both ways, I’ve been heavily downvoted just for saying they won’t have the EV market all to themselves much longer.

I'm still waiting for a viable Tesla competitor. The supercharger network is a surprisingly big bonus when doing the SWOT analysis of buying an EV. Feature parity would (for me) require at least: 1) Same price point 2) Decent size, bigger than a Leaf, but still not SUV-big 3) Same range with same carrying capacity 4) Something that would compete with the Supercharger network 5) The Geek factor. I want a super-techy E…

Just went for a 2x12-hour road trip, for the first time in a Tesla.

We had a total of two 20-minute charging stops on each (12-hour) leg, during which we ate a burger, took a toilet break and had a cup of coffee. When we were done, the car had enough charge to reach the next planned stop (in 4 hours) with 25% capacity to spare.

Absolutely zero worry about running out of energy, zero time standing still that we wouldn't be taking a break anyway.

All three of us were more rested when we arrived than when we took the same trip in an ICE car six months ago, due to a more quiet and comfortable ride with no engine vibrations. Notably, the trip was also faster.

Re: Tesla Software Version 10.0

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Post by moduspol »

outadoc wrote: post #449
kaiwen1 wrote: post #413

The depth and breadth of anti-Tesla sentiment in HN threads is curious. It's rarely from owners. By all satisfaction surveys, owners love their Teslas.

This just in: Tesla owners more likely to enjoy the car they chose to buy.

Also just in: People who think you have to use the touchscreen to drive the car don't have a meaningful opinion about the car

Re: Tesla Software Version 10.0

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Post by moduspol »

xedeon wrote: post #420
kaiwen1 wrote: post #413

The depth and breadth of anti-Tesla sentiment in HN threads is curious. It's rarely from owners. By all satisfaction surveys, owners love their Teslas.

It's very intriguing indeed... I always thought the HN demographic is a pretty smart bunch, because I often learn quite a bit from the comment section. I don't get all of the anti-Tesla vitriol, I'm honestly curious what fuels it. It's like all objectivity get's thrown out the window.

It's just the Windows / Mac thing all over again. The parallels are striking.

Re: Tesla Software Version 10.0

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Post by Loic »

marvin wrote: post #526
epalm wrote: post #515

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Then they change the settings, and if they're a considerate human being, they change them back. If they're not, then you get to grumble a bit, change them back yourself, and consider not sharing your car with that person again. I don't think the world has lost anything substantial here. Just realized I might be a grumpy old man.

Maybe you always share your car with a partner that's 25 centimeters shorter than you, requiring different settings for seat & steering weel position, and also has a different body composition that makes them want different climate control settings. It shouldn't be so controversial to claim that automatic adjustment of settings is a net UX win this this common scenario.

Since at least 1987, Cadillac is offering this with simple hardware push buttons. We have that in a VW "group" car and turning the dial in the center console allow to adjust as needed the temperature + airflow in less than 1 second.

Re: Tesla Software Version 10.0

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Post by EStudley »

kccqzy wrote: post #360
EStudley wrote: post #124

Does anyone know if the user interface is still Qt/QML?

It probably is. Why would they rewrite their UI if the Qt one works?

It would not be the first time a company has dropped Qt overnight, especially with their recent push for royalties on all products.

Re: Tesla Software Version 10.0

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Post by makomk »

xedeon wrote: post #309
makomk wrote: post #272

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Apparently identifying speed limit signs is AP1-only, because it relied on Mobileye's technology to do that and Tesla still haven't implemented their own replacement for that feature yet.

> Apparently identifying speed limit signs is AP1-only, because it relied on Mobileye's technology to do that and Tesla still haven't implemented their own replacement for that feature yet. It's more of Tesla can't because because MobileEye owns the patent: https://patents.google.com/patent/US20080137908A1/en

That patent only seems to cover using the same camera for both sign recognition and forward collision detection by switching between two different sets of image capture parameters and then dividing the frames captured between the two different algorithms. It's not a general patent on sign recognition. Tesla have enough cameras on their current cars, and camera technology has improved by enough over the years, that I can't imagine that being necessary.

Re: Tesla Software Version 10.0

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Post by herewego »

DangerousPie wrote: post #503
jmchuster wrote: post #480

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i have an analog vehicle, and the car doesn't need to have to remember my settings because they are physically in the same location.

And what if you share your car with someone who prefers different settings?

Like in any modern analog car, the knobs are free spinning and therefore remember their settings. It’s a tactile version of tapping a screen that is a better UX IMHO. When my significant other uses my car, they hit #2 on the preset settings and everything slides and turns into place. This is a well solved problem and has been for many years. Note: I am a former P85D Model S owner.

Re: Tesla Software Version 10.0

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Post by clouddrover »

kwhitefoot wrote: post #530
clouddrover wrote: post #384

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No one else will adopt Tesla's standard. You're avoiding the question rather than answering it. CCS charging providers allow Teslas to charge on their networks today. When will Tesla reciprocate and convert to CCS?

The Model 3 in Europe uses CCS and many (perhaps most) of the stations here in Norway already have CCS connectors.

Yes. All we need now is the timetable for Tesla opening their network to all EVs that can charge via CCS.

Re: Tesla Software Version 10.0

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Post by herewego »

moduspol wrote: post #532
outadoc wrote: post #449

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This just in: Tesla owners more likely to enjoy the car they chose to buy.

Also just in: People who think you have to use the touchscreen to drive the car don't have a meaningful opinion about the car

Also also just in: You can not drive a Tesla without using the touchscreen on an almost constant basis. You have never owned a Tesla if you think this is not the case.

Re: Tesla Software Version 10.0

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Post by NullPrefix »

jstummbillig wrote: post #439
radium3d wrote: post #403

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The wipers wipe automatically when the camera detects rain on the windshield. If you want to do a window clean you just push the button on the end of the blinker handle on the left of the steering wheel. It's one of the few physical buttons of the 3.

Now that's just unlucky for parent :) The great thing about the touch screen is not the UI experience, but the flexibility when it comes to updates that also include new features. When you go the hardware controller route on a product that is still heavily being interrated on, you quickly run out of intuitive ways to clearly label and/or manipulate things or an exzessive number of buttons with integrated screens (to…

>The great thing about the touch screen is ... the flexibility when it comes to updates that also include new features

That's the main problem. Change is good only if it's optional, by choice. Forced redesign only makes designers happy, because they can now stop looking at that old version that they released some years ago and want to sunset it.

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