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Re: Switch from Chrome to Firefox

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Post by soulofmischief »

BlueTemplar wrote: post #348
soulofmischief wrote: post #157

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Don't get me wrong-- on the Firefox side of things, it's been the user experience of the browser itself which has been suffering. Every single update since Quantum has made things worse. Three days ago I opened up Firefox to find out all of my settings had been nuked, 200+ tabs, themes and extensions lost, about:config reset, search settings reset (hello again Google) etc. I'm still fuming mad about this. I don't fee…

Weren't developers during the IE6 era beholden to market forces too? Do you want to be part of the problem ?

I'm not part of the problem just because I have to deal with it. My company's motives and mine are separate.

Re: Switch from Chrome to Firefox

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Post by Bakary »

Endy wrote: post #489

I suggest that we instead switch to Pale Moon. Whatever you might feel about Moonchild, the browser is solid and reliable. All it really could benefit from would be a wider add-on dev community.

What would be the benefit of doing this?

Re: Switch from Chrome to Firefox

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Post by Narishma »

rkangel wrote: post #357

What is the actual performance story these days? Last time I tried Firefox (soon after they were making a fuss about Quantum) I was fairly disappointed. I'm including performance of the Android browser here (because they work in concert as far as I'm concerned). Also, what pain am I going to hit with DRM and online video? I use the usual suspects - Amazon, Netflix, Youtube.

Given the multiple conflicting anecdotal experiences you'll find in the comment section of any story about Firefox or Chrome, performance of either browser is all over the place and seems to depend on your hardware, OS, drivers, extensions, how you use the browser and probably the phase of the moon.

Re: Switch from Chrome to Firefox

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Post by konart »

jwr wrote: post #161

I don't understand why Mac users use Chrome. Safari seems to be out of fashion: people just assume that it should not be used for some reason, even though it is actually a great browser. I use Safari for both my own browsing and for development (a fairly large ClojureScript application), and it is by far the best browser on the platform by all measures (speed first and foremost). The only place where Safari falls sho…

Extensions. Safari has almost none of them and I need them. And not just uBO. I have 10+ of them install and I'd say 8 of them are mandatory for me. I don't care about Safari being the fastest or battery life.

Also dev tools are so much better in Fx and Chrome...

Re: Switch from Chrome to Firefox

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Post by konart »

chris_wot wrote: post #482
k_bx wrote: post #362

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> and even Firefox if you have a retina display, this "even" is sort of a joke, because ff is so CPU-heavy (and often slow) that it's unusable for me https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1404042

I have a retina display and I'm using Firefox right now with 5 tabs open. Working fine for me!

150 tabs here, lol.

But it is true that for some users Firefox on retina is barely usable. It is a confirmed bug.

Re: Switch from Chrome to Firefox

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Post by simias »

dTal wrote: post #123
fencepost wrote: post #104

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I really wish that if Microsoft was going to abandon having their own engine that they'd gone to Mozilla instead.

No thanks. Keep Embrace, Extend, Extinguish away from my user agent.

I'm no MS fan but in this case it's Google that's doing the 3 Es. First they bundled their own adblocker in Chrome (embrace), then they're making their own standards to dictate what 3rd party ad blockers can do, under the guise of improving performance (extend) and now they're making it harder to make efficient 3rd party adblockers (extinguish).

It's pretty clear what the plan is here, Google naturally sees ad blocking as a threat and they know that they can't outright disable ad blockers so they take the long route to take it over. Make it functional enough that most users won't bother looking for an alternative but make sure that it can't threaten your business model.

Re: Switch from Chrome to Firefox

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Post by m0zg »

pixelrevision wrote: post #290
itwy wrote: post #111

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I don't understand how it's better than multiple profiles. I use multiple accounts for the same services (Asana, AWS, email, etc.) how can I manage that with containers?

Containers helps keep things sandboxed and lets you use the same window with different tabs representing different sessions. So in your case you could have say a "work" container and a "home" container. Each of these could persist logins for all of the services you are using without having to switch between users and have different windows open you just have the 2 tabs. What I think people find more useful is the abi…

But this co-mingles bookmarks and add-ons. For work/personal separation profiles are definitely better

Re: Switch from Chrome to Firefox

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Post by dymk »

FlyingAvatar wrote: post #466
dymk wrote: post #376

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I've been disappointed with Firefox on MacOS. I tried it for months, but it constantly crashed on me, especially when using multiple monitors, and was super laggy and jittery compared to what I was used to. I gave up and went back to Chrome, which has been as performant as ever.

I think you mean you're disappointed with Firefox on macOS? If so, my experience has been the same, though I have been sticking with it for now. I often find I have to close out Firefox and restore my session to stop it from churning so hard my fans spin. This is particularly true after it has been running for a while or after resuming from suspend.

Sorry yes, corrected that typo.

Re: Switch from Chrome to Firefox

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Post by sound1 »

_underfl0w_ wrote: post #509
alias_neo wrote: post #451

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Then you're just using Chrome... Isn't Electron basically just a Chrome tab as an app (to over simplify it? I presume it would afford Google the same level of tracking that Chrome does.

Electron apps' Chrome stores its cookies separately from the user's installation of it, correct? That, plus the lack of a logged-in account within Electron's Chrome might help to mitigate user cookie correlation and the like, right? Not sure about in-browser IP tracking, though...

I wish someone with a lot more knowledge than me on this replies. You raise a very valid, practical and useful question, would love to hear the answer :-)

Re: Switch from Chrome to Firefox

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Post by sorum »

dhritzkiv wrote: post #207
jwr wrote: post #161

I don't understand why Mac users use Chrome. Safari seems to be out of fashion: people just assume that it should not be used for some reason, even though it is actually a great browser. I use Safari for both my own browsing and for development (a fairly large ClojureScript application), and it is by far the best browser on the platform by all measures (speed first and foremost). The only place where Safari falls sho…

Agreed. On macOS, Safari is fastest, hands down. All while preserving battery life better than Chrome, and even Firefox. PiP, swipe to peak navigation, pinch to zoom, better 1Password integration, Apple Pay, etc. are all more than just nice to have features. However, my biggest gripe about Safari has to be the developer tools. They're noticeably slower, clunkier, and the network tab is unpredictable at times. I think…

> better 1Password integration

Am I using it wrong in Safari?

Because to me the Chrome integration with 1Password X extension is by far the easiest, you get the dropdown right there in the field. In Safari, I have to click the 1Password extension button next to the address field and then select Autofill.

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