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George Clooney is probably at least 1000 times richer than Joe Average. So he could provide better for 50 women than Joe Average for one. Of course it doesn't seems as if he is taking on 50 women, so the women are stuck with Joe Average for the most part. Just because women would prefer George Clooney, doesn't mean they can get him. And sure, modern society (at least for a while) has made monogamy the norm. Doesn't m…
> George Clooney is probably at least 1000 times richer than Joe Average. So he could provide better for 50 women than Joe Average for one. Assuming all of a woman’s needs are financial, sure. But unless he is hiring Joe Averages to provide personal attention and emotional support (and there are issues with the viability of that), not really in the universe of what appears to be real human needs.
Explaining Sex Rate Changes
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Indeed, and it would also explain why it happens for young men in particular - as people get older, they start prioritizing monogamy, it being likely the better structure for raising kids (according to current social standards, at least) (technically, marriage doesn't mean monogamy - cheating is common - but I imagine not many men would sign up to raise children in a couple without having sex with their partners).
If by "people" you mean women in their thirties waking up to the biological clock/last maternity "all aboard" call, sure. Young men have it worse list like older women have it: because men are attracted to youth and beauty and women are attracted to resources and status.
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I'm still highly suspicious of the narrative all of this is premised on. TFA mentions the low sample size of the original study, and augments it with Twitter polls. But TFA author's Twitter follows aren't exactly a representative sample of the population... Furthermore, monogamy and sexual activity remains strong for people in their 30s, and I expect this will continue to be true in the future. Women are having child…
>It's exceptionally unlikely that a small subgroup of men who already refuse to adapt is large enough and motivated enough to hold the rest of society at gunpoint. Isn't it the point that it's something like 80% of men that are becoming disenfranchised? That hardly seems like a small subgroup to me.
This is what I mean by overblown. People's perception on this issue is just ridiculously out of whack. Young men aren't as dangerous to civil society as a lot of people like to imagine. The violent ones get jail and the rest grow up.
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#534The same young men then tell me, that I should be worried about race-mixing, and I should be worried that most men are not having sex.
This is, quite frankly, a fascinating duality of thought.
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#535As the article points out, fewer young men are having sex, but roughly the same number of young women are having sex. I wonder if dating apps (Tinder, Bumble, etc.) are leading women to have sex with a smaller cohort of desirable men. Years ago, OkCupid noted that a small percentage of men get an overwhelming percentage of messages from women. With the rise of "swipe right, swipe left" mobile dating apps, where peopl…
"[In Tinder,] the bottom 80% of men (in terms of attractiveness) are competing for the bottom 22% of women and the top 78% of women are competing for the top 20% of men" - from https://medium.com/@worstonlinedater/tinder-experiments-ii-g... (2015). I dive a bit it that topic in "Dating for nerds (part 2): gender differences" https://p.migdal.pl/2017/09/30/dating-for-nerds-gender-diffe... .
Did you ever get around to writing part 3?
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Similar experience here. No one prepared me for the roller-coaster effect of subjective male attractiveness. (I'm a Man) I've always felt that you could break it up pretty well by relative status. Here's how it went for me. - 6th grade - extraordinarily unattractive to the opposite sex. - 8th grade - not outwardly reviled. - 9th grade - outwardly reviled again. - 12th grade - actually dating, with a bit of interest h…
Sorry to break it to you, but women chose you not because you're suddenly more attractive than your friend, but because they've had 15 years or so to learn that your friend won't settle down and their biological clock is ringing real hard in their 30s. It's quite cynical, I know.
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#537In my case, I’ve always found partners (including my wife with whom I’ve been in a strong relationship for 8 years) in gatherings with friends and friends of friends. I would absolutely DREAD today’s dating scene through a screen. Maybe older men do it the old way? I don’t know, this is one revolution I hope regresses. If you’re young and looking, I’d suggest you try to mix and match your circle with your friends’ ci…
How many times have your circles imploded?
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This is another trouble with dating apps. How can you possibly make a meaningful connection with another person through an app? There's nothing but a profile pic and some generic text. These "creepy" guys would likely be totally fine in an informal, real-world situation. They would be all right in the workplace, sports club, college study group or by coming along a group of friends, being introduced in person. They c…
If they would be fine in an informal, real-world situation, why can't they do the same via an app? All the things you would say in real life can be said via dating apps. You miss body language, but GIFs, emojis, and memes can help clarify.
Those curious messages in your inbox are not just as your personal trouble (why don't more suitable mates show up?) but also as a symptom of a changing society that sees growing individualism, stratification, weird one-way relationships with social media and much more... and that all of this produces many losers that no one gives a shit about.
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#539Earlier quoted context omitted.
Sorry to break it to you, but women chose you not because you're suddenly more attractive than your friend, but because they've had 15 years or so to learn that your friend won't settle down and their biological clock is ringing real hard in their 30s. It's quite cynical, I know.
In this situation, the man would be scraps... Wouldn't him? How would that make him feel? As someone unlucky with girls I vowed to never let myself become scraps for any woman when I get older.
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> I maintain that I am flagging this because I consider it off-topic and not intellectually stimulating. The discussion happening in this thread does not support your conclusions. As per the HN guidelines: > Most stories about politics, or crime, or sports, unless they're evidence of some interesting new phenomenon. Videos of pratfalls or disasters, or cute animal pictures. If they'd cover it on TV news, it's probabl…
First you say "I don't mean to belittle your decision to flag the article" Then you write several comments doing just that.
The best moderators use objective criteria when exercising their powers. You might want to say that you're not a moderator and that you're just a user, but this also misses the point. HackerNews has been kind enough to give users a moderation tool (flagging), so you should treat the tool with respect. You have great power with that tool, and your contributions are very important, so it's important that we contribute in a good way.