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My somewhat complete salary history as a software engineer

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Re: My somewhat complete salary history as a software engineer

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I think I'm underpaid, but not grossly so. I earn $115,000/yr with 8 years of professional experience in Philadelphia. I have equity currently valued at ~$5,000. I also make an additional ~$10,000/yr in donations to my open source projects and an additional ~$5,000/yr through the occasional side gig. https://www.bestplaces.net/cost_of_living/city/pennsylvania/... I started my career at $30,000 in Colorado Springs. ht…

Do you like your company? I'm also in philly but can't seem to find a cool company to work for (I have a software job as is but have been looking). The city feels somewhat dry of interesting software companies.

I do like it, yeah. Shoot me an email: sir@cmpwn.com.

Re: My somewhat complete salary history as a software engineer

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In the US, maybe. In other countries like the UK, a principal architect is probably not getting half that. I would guess from a quick google that an architect in the UK is on around £50k to £70k. Which is $63k to $90k. I'm a senior software engineer with around 10years experience. I'm on £38k ($48k) plus a very small bonus, maybe £2 to £3k if I'm lucky. Last job was a mid-level engineer on £28k. I've seen junior deve…

I'm a senior software engineer and am earning £70k in Edinburgh. You may be getting underpaid depending on where you are.

I'm a mid level engineer earning £45k in Bristol, not including additional benefits and perks. To get that I moved from a small company to a very big software employer in the UK. I've found that UK salaries have a massive range but it's pretty much the big companies paying the top end ones, and then all the rest paying the lower ones.

I have many friends with the same years of experience as myself, and similar tech stacks. They're working for smaller organisations across the south of England and on roughly £28-30k with few/no perks past the standard UK pension payments.

I think a lot of people are underpaid in the UK (including the parent poster), in particular those at smaller companies and smaller consulting agencies. However I imagine it's less of an issue in London.

Re: My somewhat complete salary history as a software engineer

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Wow, talk about being underpaid. $220k for principal architect at $BOX? Note that he received stock options, not RSUs, so the value of equity was very very small (strike price is necessarily very close to IPO price that close to IPO). That's 30% less than a senior comp at FAANG, and $BOX may as well be FAANG for all the "enterprisey" things that would be in place at a company that size. Principal anything should be i…

Titles are not standard across the industry. Also, comparing Box, which has had a mostly flat stock price, to FAANG is a bit unfair. Most of the FAANGs have done really well over the past few years, so when you hear about compensation, people will often quote you their expected comp. Netflix and Facebook are probably the only true outliers though.

Re: My somewhat complete salary history as a software engineer

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To add one more:

Germany, Hannover

Roughly two years out of university, but worked part time all the time and took a while to finish my master in CS. Lots of knowledge in ML and DL.

Pay is 53k for a position at the university and will be 56k with 38h weeks next year. (Don't ask me for the hours at the university, thinking about it will make me cry) And the regular 30 vacation days.

Re: My somewhat complete salary history as a software engineer

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Seems like it's more important to change titles than company according to your history. To be honest I'm a bit offended you consider yourself senior with 2 years of experience.

I got promoted to "senior" developer less than 6 months out of university because my employer wanted to inflate the credibility of his consulting business. Job titles aren't standardised and can be pretty meaningless between organisations.

This isn't unique to tech, either. In a lot of enterprise sales orgs, literally everyone is a "VP".

Re: My somewhat complete salary history as a software engineer

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Wow, talk about being underpaid. $220k for principal architect at $BOX? Note that he received stock options, not RSUs, so the value of equity was very very small (strike price is necessarily very close to IPO price that close to IPO). That's 30% less than a senior comp at FAANG, and $BOX may as well be FAANG for all the "enterprisey" things that would be in place at a company that size. Principal anything should be i…

That was definitely surprising to me. Also, after checking his about me I realized it Nicholas Zakas! I learned so much about giant Javascript apps because of his books!

It really shows how much negotiation actually does matter.

Re: My somewhat complete salary history as a software engineer

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As a career-long deaf white male SDET / QA Automation Engineer:

- 2013: $70000 + 3% bonus, freshly graduated with BS in CompSci, worked at big corporation in east coast

- 2014: $72000 + 3% bonus (something like 2-3% raise - got max bonus+raise due to performance), same company as above

- 2015: $74000 + 3% bonus (something like 2-3% raise - got max bonus+raise due to performance), same company as above

- 2016: $77000 + 3% bonus (something like 2-3% raise - got max bonus+raise due to performance), same company as above

- 2017: $80000 + 3% bonus (something like 2-3% raise - got max bonus+raise due to performance), same company as above

- 2017: $87000 + 0% bonus, moved to the midwest and worked at a startup, recruiter told me I'd get a bonus but turns out it's only for higher-ups or something (wasn't happy about this but still here)

- 2018: $90000 + 0% bonus (something like 3% raise), same company as above

Overall I don't know whether I should be happy with this. It's good pay and it's a medium COL in both places where I lived on east coast and in the midwest and I keep my expenses low, but I frequently read huge salaries on HackerNews, CSCareerQuestions and such. I am very effective in my QA manual and automation test duties and catch nearly everything no matter how obscure, so a lot of my colleagues value me. However, the frequent low raises and low salary jumps tell me maybe I should just stop QA altogether and do development instead which would be an easy transition because I mostly work in development side for my QA test suites.

In summary, 5 years of my career has netted me a total raise of 28.5% from $70k to $90k with no stock options or bonus or anything. Am I doing it wrong? I've also never directly asked for a raise - am I supposed to do this? I asked a few colleagues and they said they never asked for a raise and were just given what they're given. I do not know my colleague's salaries past what's posted on Glassdoor.

Re: My somewhat complete salary history as a software engineer

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    Midwest:
    2002 - $8/hr University Helldesk
    2003 - $7.25/hr ISP front line support
    2004 - $12/hr mid-size webhosting company front line support
    2005 - $28k Sole IT person at a small video production house
    2006 - $38k Linux/BSD Sysadmin

    Texas:
    2007 - $50k Sysadmin / Support at a large web host
    2008 - $65k Same company, more sysadmin, less support

    Bay Area:
    2009 - $87k HPC/UNIX Sysadmin for Uncle Sam
    2010 - $110k Ops at an SF startup
    2011 - $120k Same gig.

    Remote:
    2012 - $110k HPC/Linux Sysadmin for NYC based startup
    2013 - $120k AWS/Ops for a different NYC based startup
    2014 - $130k AWS/Ops for a fully remote startup
    2016 - $140k "
    2017 - $151k "

    Not Realized:
    2018 - $178k Remote offer I had to reject over a crappy legal agreement from the startup's PEO.
I could probably make more if I were willing to go in to an office daily, but I'm happier remote/async.

Re: My somewhat complete salary history as a software engineer

#539

To add one more: Germany, Hannover Roughly two years out of university, but worked part time all the time and took a while to finish my master in CS. Lots of knowledge in ML and DL. Pay is 53k for a position at the university and will be 56k with 38h weeks next year. (Don't ask me for the hours at the university, thinking about it will make me cry) And the regular 30 vacation days.

Forgot to mention. That is before taxes and in euro.

Roughly 2450 euro per month each. One with having 12.6 and the other 14 payments over the year

Re: My somewhat complete salary history as a software engineer

#540

Wow, talk about being underpaid. $220k for principal architect at $BOX? Note that he received stock options, not RSUs, so the value of equity was very very small (strike price is necessarily very close to IPO price that close to IPO). That's 30% less than a senior comp at FAANG, and $BOX may as well be FAANG for all the "enterprisey" things that would be in place at a company that size. Principal anything should be i…

Titles are not standard across the industry. Also, comparing Box, which has had a mostly flat stock price, to FAANG is a bit unfair. Most of the FAANGs have done really well over the past few years, so when you hear about compensation, people will often quote you their expected comp. Netflix and Facebook are probably the only true outliers though.

The base comp at FAANG for principal is double his total comp.
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