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Tell HN: Slack decides to close down IRC and XMPP gateways

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Re: Tell HN: Slack decides to close down IRC and XMPP gateways

#531
post #214

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The ~600 person distributed company I work for doesn't use phone or email and obviously doesn't do anything face to face. We relied on IRC for years before switching to Slack so yes, all of our real-time communication is via Slack. We have internal blogs for threaded important async discussion though, but Slack is where our high bandwidth talk done.

How come you don't use Rocket.Chat or Mattermost or Matrix?

Might it be because Slack is free and hosted for you?

Re: Tell HN: Slack decides to close down IRC and XMPP gateways

#532
post #248

Great, I feel like an idiot. I advocated slack, because it granted the freedom to choose a client. Now I helped lock-in others. Suggestions for alternatives, that I could migrate to? The requirements are: mid sized teams, desktop and mobile, all major os. People used web based client, native clients, irc gw, and bots. We need search and archive. Self-hosting is an option.

To be frank, you should feel like an idiot. This was entirely foreseeable and people have been warning you not only about Slack, but about proprietary software and vendor lock-in for _literally decades_. Try not to make this mistake again. Advocate for free and open source.

Re: Tell HN: Slack decides to close down IRC and XMPP gateways

#534
post #464

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Why would one want to use Relay instead of Mattermost?

Relay is actually hosted mattermost. Just a means to offload maintenance and uptime to someone working on it full time. The part of software in Relay that makes mattermost SaSS is open source too.

Tell your team to stop spamming it around then please. Spam mattermost if you must.

Re: Tell HN: Slack decides to close down IRC and XMPP gateways

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Maybe we could do something about voicemail then? ducks

What do you mean? Voicemail was never successful and the reason is simple: verba volant, scripta manent , spoken flies, written remains.

Voicemail was very popular in the US for an extended period. Email becoming popular helped reduce that; so, later, did texting, especially once we got past the T9 keyboard.

Re: Tell HN: Slack decides to close down IRC and XMPP gateways

#537

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As someone who doesn't use slack, why did we ever move away from chat programs and protocols that worked fine? I don't know why I need to use slack, hangouts, discord, etc, that are just reinventing irc and/or the garden variety instant messaging platforms that already exist.

I don't know why I need to use slack [...] just reinventing irc Features Slack has that IRC doesn't include: * User authentication * Support for multiple concurrent logins by one user * Persistent, searchable history * (Ad-free) file and image sharing built in * Simple integrations, like webhooks, built in. In other words, Slack is like IRC+NickServ+Irssi+Screen+Imgur, except easier to use, in the sense that you don'…

Slack is one company.

It's closer to Slack is like DALnet.

That said, this is a money grubbing exercise that isn't justified by any technical means.

Re: Tell HN: Slack decides to close down IRC and XMPP gateways

#538
post #493

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JAWS is Windows-only, so your solution of just targeting JAWS is not a solution at all, since Slack runs on a lot more platforms.

Accessible users are primarily on windows because JAWS runs on windows . It is not a use case for us to test accessibility on anything other than JAWS on windows.

It’s worth pointing out here that that’s true for the desktop market, but as with sighted users a large portion of time for blind users is taken up with mobile or tablet computing and there iOS and VoiceOver is the dominant platform.

Re: Tell HN: Slack decides to close down IRC and XMPP gateways

#539
post #318

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Turn message forwarding off and nothing will happen, I've lent my cell # to broke friends afew times to make a Google Voice account, and have a Voice number myself for Craigslist exchanges, lapses between paying my carrier, etc

you seem to miss the point. 1) get US phone 2) register google voice to US phone 3) stop paying for US phone 4) you can't de-register you US phone, unless you register a new one 5a) if you never sign up for a US phone, anybody can get assigned that number and click "forgot password" on your google voice. 5b) you get a new US phone: go to 2. that is true for every single service that ties you up to a phone number or t…

I currently have my google voice number only and not tied to a landline or cell number. When was the last time you tried #4, because it's been like this for me for a year or more.

Re: Tell HN: Slack decides to close down IRC and XMPP gateways

#540

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> Slack initially integrated with IRC and XMPP because they were more popular than Slack. Bait > Now that Slack is much bigger than all IRC and XMPP traffic combined, the integration is no longer worth its weight in code. Switch

sorry, but i don't agree. this is a classic EEE i.e. Embrace, Extend, Extinguish maneuver. which is what, afaik, the gp was trying to say. edit-001: fmt changes.

I would agree that it is clearly EEE, but would argue that it is also a bait and switch. My intention was to rephrase the gp's comment, which I felt was unfairly positive toward this general practice.
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