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Disney acquires own streaming facilities, will pull Netflix content

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Re: Disney acquires own streaming facilities, will pull Netflix content

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Post by djflutt3rshy »

laumars wrote: post #506
dkrich wrote: post #288

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The fact is that Disney is extremely savvy and knows how to produce content that sells with a nearly 100% success rate. They are simply a marketing and merchandising machine. They use the vault the way diamond miners do- to restrict supply of extremely coveted goods so that they can charge premium prices for them. It's good business and it keeps things that are decades old in constant demand so they can charge higher…

Because Disney aren't just competing with Netflix and co; they're also competing with usenet services, torrents, Kodi streams and other illegal services. And because Disney keep fucking their own consumers about it's left a void where the illegal services have not only been able to raise the bar in terms of user experience, but also in terms of available content and video quality. In any other industry market forces…

Disney probably took that into account, and decided that the demographic buying DisneyOnDemand (or whatever they call this) isn't going to overlap much with the demographic visiting yohoho.warez.se

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Post by bsder »

geff82 wrote: post #112

Maybe when I am 60, 70 or 80 the film industry will get their shi* together and finally agree on a solution that has long been found in the music business. For a truly complete platform, I would FOR SURE pay more than the 10$ a month for Netflix. 20, maybe 30! But then I want it ALL. All films they have in storage. I mean, it is 2017 and there are a lot of films I can't find on Netflix, Amazon Prime or, when I am in…

> Maybe when I am 60, 70 or 80 the film industry will get their shi* together and finally agree on a solution that has long been found in the music business.

Except that the music business continues to shrink each year.

The only reason there was a slight pause in this is because suddenly vinyl sales, of all things, took off.

Somehow I don't think you are going to find many takers in the video industry for following any music model.

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Post by bkor »

beobab wrote: post #525
boyce wrote: post #516

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It also needs to be easier to buy it than steal it and not have unskippable adverts or lectures on piracy for a lot of things, stealing is both easier and better

Careful of this mindset. So the thought process is: "I want this" "I am not allowed this" "I should be allowed this" "I will take it anyway" This is seductive, easy, and the wrong way to go for most things. I understand the frustration. I have felt the same way many, many times. I suspect that if people who illegally downloaded movies posted money to the studios who created the content directly, then this problem wou…

> illegally downloaded movies posted money to the studios who created the content directly, then this problem would disappear pretty much overnight

So if you cannot get something legally easily, you should support that practice and suddenly you'll get it more easily in future? This in a post about an article where Disney is making it more difficult to get content legally? Really?

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Post by onion2k »

geff82 wrote: post #112

Maybe when I am 60, 70 or 80 the film industry will get their shi* together and finally agree on a solution that has long been found in the music business. For a truly complete platform, I would FOR SURE pay more than the 10$ a month for Netflix. 20, maybe 30! But then I want it ALL. All films they have in storage. I mean, it is 2017 and there are a lot of films I can't find on Netflix, Amazon Prime or, when I am in…

...a solution that has long been found in the music business.

Perhaps you're fortunate that everything you want to listen to is on your preferred music streaming service, but what they offer is far from everything in the music industry's catalogue. Ask any classical music fan what they think of streaming services and you'll hear a tirade against the woeful offerings that streaming services make available.

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Post by rplnt »

waddlesworth wrote: post #276
TheGRS wrote: post #92

Some kind of surprising comments in this thread. I think many people (obviously not everyone here judging by what I'm reading) would happily pay for a Disney-only service, maybe upwards of $20-$30 per month. Why? Its the mecca for family entertainment. They have Pixar, Disney Animation, Star Wars and Marvel, plus all of their Disney television content from years past. Its a quality brand people trust. Much different…

Most apps are published to both iTunes and Google Play. Most songs to Goole Music, Spotify, Apple Music and probably a few others. As long as it's within 10yrs old, even most games are available for purchase, anywhere in the world, from the different platforms. While the majority is exclusive to Steam, other providers have their own niche markets. When I make an IP, I want to capture as much of the market as possible…

Steam is not just a storefront, it's also service provider (or a platform). That's why many games are locked to Steam. I don't see any parallel like that with movies/tv.

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Post by pyvpx »

cdmckay wrote: post #498
dingo_bat wrote: post #417

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Wtf they actually sent him to jail for refusing to give customer data to the NSA. No wonder we hardly see any resistance nowadays.

He went to jail for fraud and insider trading

debatable.

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Post by bsder »

cdmckay wrote: post #498
dingo_bat wrote: post #417

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Wtf they actually sent him to jail for refusing to give customer data to the NSA. No wonder we hardly see any resistance nowadays.

He went to jail for fraud and insider trading

On fairly flimsy evidence that looks suspiciously like parallel construction.

Nacchio was no saint, but it seems pretty clear that he was targeted after failing to be cooperative.

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Post by pluma »

So what about the Marvel shows? I was pretty sure they're Netflix exclusives but Marvel is owned by Disney and the wording in this statement is ambiguous about whether it would be affected or not.

Considering a new service will likely start out as US-only (as they always do) pulling future Marvel shows off Netflix would effectively mean killing them off internationally.

I'd imagine a Disney service would face fewer hurdles for international distribution (though I'm sure Disney was myopic enough to sign exclusive deals prohibiting them from serving some of their own content in some countries) but considering I'm still waiting for YouTube Red[0] to become available, HBO Go[1] isn't really available outside the US (which didn't stop them from handing out swag at European tech conferences) and Hulu[2] is still practically US-only, I'm not so keen on waiting for yet another player to figure out which countries they'll bother supporting.

[0]: https://support.google.com/youtube/answer/6307365

[1]: http://hbowatch.com/which-countries-is-hbo-available-in/

[2]: http://www.bestofhulu.com/a-great-map-of-countries-where-hul...

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Post by gcb0 »

reitanqild wrote: post #20

I'm happy to pay Spotify a monthly fee. It is more than I ever spent on music before though (not a pirate, just didn't buy much music.) Same with netflix. I'll not be happy with paying monthly for n different channels to watch a film. I want to pay. But either one service with all I need like Spotify or paying for the stiff I actually watch.

free marketing lesson:

you (or the statistical significant you :) started paying for music because you aged. not because Spotify changed the game.

before and after Spotify and such, older demographics are the ones buying vinyls, cds, subscriptions, etc.

the business model is to bombard you with free exposure during your teens, and hopefully sell you concert tickets, to later cash in you buying media.

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