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Lyft surges to the top 10 on App Store following the “DeleteUber” campaign

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Post by makomk »

ploggingdev wrote: post #20

Another reminder that emotion trumps (unintentional pun) reasoning on social media. I find it depressing that people don't spend any time verifying stories and separating facts from fiction. I would classify the #deleteuber event as a form of fake news. You know what would be a good personal assistant or bot to build (using ML)? One that detects and informs users about fake news. Apparently the vast majority of peopl…

It's worse than that - people don't care. I've seen people admit that something they post is fake, then say that they'll go on spreading it anyway. Even respectable, well-known members of the tech industry whose names most people here would recognize.

Re: Lyft surges to the top 10 on App Store following the “DeleteUber” campaign

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Post by guelo »

exodust wrote: post #406
usernameplease wrote: post #252

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Can I ask why donating to the ACLU made you delete your account? It may be a waste of VC money, but they do stand up for civil liberties.

You signed up to ask me that? Maybe you're from Lyft or ACLU? Today I'm interested in the gritty details of social media manipulation, political marketing and celebrities using their Twitter power to influence customer loyalty. I was replying to guelo, who suggested the 1 million donation from Lyft was well-timed marketing genius. I'm surprised so many people think that money is the answer to everything. Money and ha…

I wasn't making a value judgement when I called it marketing genius. I see the donation as cynical manipulation. But there's no denying that as marketing it was extremely effective at generating app installs.

Re: Lyft surges to the top 10 on App Store following the “DeleteUber” campaign

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Post by joshbert »

exodust wrote: post #406
usernameplease wrote: post #252

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Can I ask why donating to the ACLU made you delete your account? It may be a waste of VC money, but they do stand up for civil liberties.

You signed up to ask me that? Maybe you're from Lyft or ACLU? Today I'm interested in the gritty details of social media manipulation, political marketing and celebrities using their Twitter power to influence customer loyalty. I was replying to guelo, who suggested the 1 million donation from Lyft was well-timed marketing genius. I'm surprised so many people think that money is the answer to everything. Money and ha…

Hear, hear.

Re: Lyft surges to the top 10 on App Store following the “DeleteUber” campaign

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Post by joshbert »

fny wrote: post #94
throwaway5752 wrote: post #40

Thiel is a big investor, Icahn is a big investor. Both are closely tied to the Trump administration.

This. Ichaan, a Trump supporter from the first day of candidacy, has a $100mm stake in Lyft... Not sure what Theil's numbers are. If this election has taught me anything it's that people unfortunately think with their hearts to the point of being almost braindead. Reminds me of how Whole Foods was founded by an Ayn Rand loving libertarian , but somehow people think their money goes to a hippy-dippy left leaning insti…

I agree wholeheartedly, but I think this phenomenon is to be expected.

I don't know any more about the founder of Whole Foods than I do about the founder of Target, nor is it really relevant to me as a consumer. All the vast majority of people have to form an opinion on their image is the companies themselves and their experiences with them. So, we do.

Re: Lyft surges to the top 10 on App Store following the “DeleteUber” campaign

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Post by Mtinie »

prodigal_erik wrote: post #504
sethev wrote: post #429

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That seems like an absurd splitting of hairs. Under that logic the concept of a strike breaker couldn't exist. "It was coal workers who were striking, but the replacements are not coal workers per se they were non-participating laborers who happen to perform the same function"

If my mom arrives at the airport and needs a ride, am I supposed to refuse because of the strike? Will the union let me vote on the strike on that basis?

> If my mom arrives at the airport and needs a ride, am I supposed to refuse because of the strike?

Do you intend on charging your mother for the ride she needs? If your answer is "of course not," you aren't providing the same function as a taxi.

Re: Lyft surges to the top 10 on App Store following the “DeleteUber” campaign

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Post by rashkov »

alphonsegaston wrote: post #503
david38 wrote: post #500

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Uber dispatched nobody. The drivers dispatched themselves. You're saying it was Uber's responsibility to side with the strikers (who are their competition) against the wishes of their own drivers? Seriously? If Uber had forced a strike on its drivers (without a vote no less) people would have been pissed that they were left stranded. If enough Uber drivers wanted to strike, they would have. They didn't. Maybe they ar…

No, they're not exempt, and I already said as much before in other comments on this post. Saying the didn't dispatch drivers is just another cavillous circumlocution. They created, maintain, and profit from the platform through which the scabs were sent to break a strike. People see through these kind of dodges, although they could do a better job of seeing through Lyft's PR.

Let's compare two quotes from you:

"They dispatched drivers to break the strike."

"They created, maintain, and profit from the platform through which the scabs were sent to break a strike."

These are two very different shades of meaning. The first is active, the second is passive. So Uber passively broke the strike, but not actively. I think the difference is appreciable.

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Post by general_ai »

agumonkey wrote: post #334
general_ai wrote: post #308

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Doesn't matter who she is. She's not a judge and DOJ is not a part of the judicial branch. Only a judge can stay or overrule an EO. She was way out of line, by a mile, and she got fired for it. Funny as well that when Obama unceremoniously fired James Mattis without even bothering to communicate his decision why, no eyebrows were raised and he wasn't called a 5yo. Mattis's fault? He didn't want us to bomb Iran.

You're right, it's pretty similar, I didn't hear about it until now http://foreignpolicy.com/2013/01/18/the-obama-administration... Obama's public persona makes the difference in my eyes, he was a more respectful person all along, making weird decisions less problematic in a way. You might say it's irrelevant though.

It's not just irrelevant, it's detrimental. The US should conduct itself from a position of power, not preemptively apologize for hurting other governments' feelings like Obama did. You do not bow to any king. You insist on exiting your plane to whatever exit you want, not through the fucking back door like Obama had to do in China. You demand respect. You demand red carpet and honor guard. You make sure to communicate unambiguously that you will not be manipulated by what's "politically correct", and you can only be swayed by the cold, hard facts of the situation, and your country's interest. You make others pay their fair share. You undo obviously bad trade deals. You negotiate good (or at least better) deals. Basically all of these things is what Obama failed to deliver.

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Post by Consultant32452 »

rosser wrote: post #526
Consultant32452 wrote: post #246

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>all of the people I know who are involved in this stuff are very well aware of Obama's militarism. That doesn't help your argument. They were aware Obama killed a quarter of a million people and did nothing. Meanwhile Trump inconveniences some travelers and somehow he's the monster worth protesting. Get real.

You have no idea what my friends may or may not have protested, or otherwise done, in the past. I'll thank you to reconsider your projections of people you've never met.

That's a laugh. Statistically speaking your friends who behave the way you're implying simply don't exist. That you might literally find a few is irrelevant.

How about you consider the fact that no one but the most obtuse observer would take a phrase like, "All of the people involved" to literally mean every single one without any exceptions whatsoever. If you think that's normal, and I don't mean this in a pejorative way, there's a significant chance you're autistic.

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Post by mcv »

jdietrich wrote: post #404
mcv wrote: post #338

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> almost nobody interviewed for occupy Wallstreet could even agree on what the goal of the group was. Protests are rarely about setting policy. They're about voicing their disagreement. Even if people at Occupy Wallstreet (and many other protests) can't agree on the solution, they do tend to agree on the problem.

That may or may not be the case now, but it certainly isn't true historically. There's a reason why "What do we want? Something! When do we want it? Now!" is a protest cliche. Grassroots activism used to be better organised. Trade unions and other working-class organisations provided structure and institutional expertise. Discontent could be directed as part of a broader strategic campaign. The atomization of society…

Organizations tend to be organized and have specific goals. But mass protests rarely come from a single organization. They come from an angry populace.

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Post by sctb »

WarmToaster wrote: post #195
temp-07567-56 wrote: post #183

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Stop distracting. Blacks don't kill other blacks for being black -- but KKK did and hate groups do. MLK's quote about protest was relevant not for race reasons, but to illustrate that the insistence of order and the vehement resentment of unrest is not a passive stance, but a conscious ideological, statist one.

Blacks literally kill each other in the thousands each year. The KKK , IIRC, lynched something on the order of a thousand blacks over 80 years. You don't help their situation by denying that fact.

Please stop using Hacker News primarily for ideological warfare. That's not what this site is for and we ban accounts that abuse it in this way.
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