I'm a vim user. Why in the world did they remove ESC? That's one of my most frequently used keys. And no, I don't think remapping it is a great idea. If I had to use this for work I would protest.
I don't understand why people keep saying they've "removed" the escape key. The thing is programmable. http://live.arstechnica.com/hello-again-apples-october-2016-...
> I don't understand why people keep saying they've "removed" the escape key.
Because programmers are at least as fond of hyperbole as the reality television programming they all claim to hate.
Fn keys are heavily used in Intellij and Eclipse. Basically, that OLED strip is a "no go" for me. I'm trying to decide between buying Dell XPS 13 right away or waiting for XPS 15 refresh. Any other suggestions are welcomed.
This setup certainly makes IDEs cry. That said, I'm willing to wait a revision or two of IntelliJ to see what they come out with while I enjoy the use of my 2014 MBP.
I'm a vim user. Why in the world did they remove ESC? That's one of my most frequently used keys. And no, I don't think remapping it is a great idea. If I had to use this for work I would protest.
I'm 99% sure the escape key will be there when in Terminal.app, I also imagine terminals like iTerm2 will have some really sweet TouchBar options to make it even better with all your console apps.
> I'm 99% sure the escape key will be there when in Terminal.app
Bah, these entitled kids. I guess being old enough to remember keyboards before they had escape keys helps, but ␛ is just keyboard syntactic sugar for control left square bracket . Read your ASCII table! C-[ is even a quicker type avoiding RSIs from all those long pinky reaches. (More seriously, as much as it bothers me to retrain my pinky, most uses of the escape key would be many times better if the lefthand side o…
I had no idea you could use C-[ as ESC
That is kind of cool! It is much easier to hit then ESC all the way up in the northwest corner of my keyboard.
I can't believe people are debating whether or not you need function and escape keys. It's just...are Apple people living in another universe? The escape key is used by nearly every application . Are you not aware of this? The function keys are used by nearly every non-game application . Cripe. Did you people buy your premium CPU-holding boxes just to use vim?
> The function keys are used by nearly every non-game application
Used OS X much, have you?
The primacy of the Command ⌘ key (which is distinct from Ctrl) has, in practice, given keyboard-shortcutting on Mac a different structure to what's traditional elsewhere.
I dislike this post intensely. The opinion comes across as uncharitable, as the author probably has not used this Macbook Pro yet. How can you (alexeysemeney) be so sure? I consider myself a developer, and I almost never use the Fn and ESC keys on my Mac. Everybody uses the computer differently, but I'm pretty sure this is not a deal-breaker for most. One could also argue that the touch bar might lead to innovative d…
Do you use USB or HDMI? You don't use any of the function keys on a mac, like volume, brightness, play/pause? I use those constantly.
And then the lackluster specs. That alone leaves me no real reason to upgrade.
It is not only developers, this change also kills the MBP for gamers. My child has all the function keys mapped to spells in World of Warcraft (including ESC).
What about the trackpad? Most Windows laptops I've tried recently still have trash trackpads.
I don't understand why any dev would want to use a touchpad of any kind? They're not nearly as precise as a mouse. They cause you to rotate your cuff even further than a mouse. Dragging and dropping things is more difficult with a touchpad. Touchpads all stink, including Apple's. Evoluent's vertical five button wireless mouse is where it's at. Everything else is second rate.
I use a Mac Pro primarily, but I actually have a mouse, trackpad, and Wacom tablet attached. Each get used for the things they work best at with the trackpad getting the most use.
I dislike this post intensely. The opinion comes across as uncharitable, as the author probably has not used this Macbook Pro yet. How can you (alexeysemeney) be so sure? I consider myself a developer, and I almost never use the Fn and ESC keys on my Mac. Everybody uses the computer differently, but I'm pretty sure this is not a deal-breaker for most. One could also argue that the touch bar might lead to innovative d…
I was configuring a server while walking through the airport the other day (long story and I won't bore you with details) on my ipad. There is no control key on the ipad keyboard meaning that I could not save any files from the ssh terminal. It was not the greatest experience and I can definitely see these kinds of things happening on laptop now due to apples "courage". They seem to be gung-ho on breaking things that…
Unless Apple made an iPad SSH client I don't know about, this sounds like you were just using a bad app. The first two that popped up when I just googled for "ipad ssh client" clearly have control keys, as seen in their screenshots, and some other ones I've tried also have control keys.
I nearly exclusively use VIm and any other editor I use has a VIm mode plugin installed. I pretty much can't work productively in anything else. I can tell you that I haven't used Esc in ages. I have Caps Lock mapped to Ctrl (as it is a vastly more useful a key than Esc and Caps Lock is a much better position for it and is just as an extraneous as Esc is). I use Ctrl-C or Ctrl-[ to exit insert mode and it works just…
Same. Been using vi as my primary command-line editor for 25+ years, and have never used the ESC key, and just use the default setup. I don't even know what commands would use the ESC key?
Are you talking about the same editor? From a 1996 vi man page [0]:
There are commands that switch you into input mode.
There is only one key that takes you out of input mode,
and that is the key. (Key names are written
using less-than and greater-than signs, e.g.
means the ``escape'' key, usually labeled ``esc'' on
your terminal's keyboard.) If you're ever confused
as to which mode you're in, keep entering the
key until vi beeps at you.
