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Re: iPhone Sales Drop, and Apple’s 13-Year Surge Ebbs

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Post by digi_owl »

galistoca wrote: post #403
digi_owl wrote: post #350

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And that is where the vibrate comes in. the keyboard is of a known layout, and by marking by feel when you move from one key to the next you know where you are. This allows the keyboard to be operated without looking, much like how most people use a ordinary keyboard today once they are past the hunt-and-peck stage. A big reason for touch screens being a problem in many situations is that you have to actually look at…

I'm guessing you downvoted me because you disagree with my point of view. I'll just tell you this: I have been thinking a lot about the stuff you talk about here and even prototyped a hardware device to try out the idea. I had the same point of view (It would be nice to have an input device I can use without even looking) but after experimenting I realized this isn't the case. Also this "vibration" thing you're talki…

This is not Reddit. I can't downvote you because you are directly responding to me.

Re: iPhone Sales Drop, and Apple’s 13-Year Surge Ebbs

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Post by zepto »

studentrob wrote: post #500
zepto wrote: post #491

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It seems to me that this idea of portability is relevant to almost nobody Most regular people I know enjoy Facebook, and are accustomed to how it works. I'm curious about where you see the demand?

> Most regular people I know enjoy Facebook I enjoy Facebook. I just see opportunity for something next-generation. Also, I disagree with the notion that Facebook will be fine forever as the dominant player in social networking. They are better off with more competition. Gates and Jobs are quoted saying that Microsoft and Apple's existence helped each other become better companies [1] [2], and helped get more useful…

I don't agree, but I am open to understanding more.

I liked your examples of cars or iPods. I agree that as specific solutions there was not demand before the existed, however there was clearly demand for personal transportation and portable music players.

What is the equivalent for portability?

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Post by cloudjacker »

dragontamer wrote: post #256
cloudjacker wrote: post #172

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> Physical limits on some aspect of the system must intervene and impose a new law. Just because Apple didn't become the first trillion dollar public company by marketcap (lets assume that chinese bank ipo for a brief second didn't count), doesn't mean that it would have broken a physical limit on the system. There was a time not long ago when 100 billion companies didn't exist and there was a time when private ventu…

Apple is still proportionally smaller than IBM, which achieved like 15% of S&P500 in 1985.

for some reason, I really don't think that particular metric matters.

(for reference, the S&P 500 calculation was around 170 in 1985, compared to 2,098 today in 2016)

Re: iPhone Sales Drop, and Apple’s 13-Year Surge Ebbs

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Post by lttlrck »

ericabiz wrote: post #473
lttlrck wrote: post #438

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Do you calibrate the screen because I have seen uncalibrated repairs and the image quality is terrible. Though that could also be caused by bum screens.

Heh, whenever I hear "calibrate the screen" I assume you either work at an Apple Store or have been to one recently, as that seems to be their favorite line. Calibration is only necessary on a glass-only repair; it realigns the digitizer "touch web" with the top glass that you're actually touching. That's why we don't perform nor recommend glass-only repairs. When we repair a screen, we test every part of the digitiz…

I meant color calibration. I don't work for Apple. I had a non-Apple iPhone 4 screen replacement and the colors were washed out, lacking saturation - it's impossible for me to say whether that is due to display quality or lack of calibration. However it makes sense to me that color calibration is required for consistent display performance especially when displays are sourced from different manufacturers.

Re: iPhone Sales Drop, and Apple’s 13-Year Surge Ebbs

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Post by devsquid »

glenndebacker wrote: post #389
dzhiurgis wrote: post #125

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The fact that you can load anything outside App store means a lot for advanced users. And I am not talking from OSS perspective. Besides, where have you seen OSS services? It doesn't even make sense.

Sideloading is supported since iOS9. Granted it is not that easy as installing an APK.

What? Are you referring to how you can compiling and run apps if you have a developers account?

Re: iPhone Sales Drop, and Apple’s 13-Year Surge Ebbs

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Post by titanix2 »

overcast wrote: post #525
vadym909 wrote: post #523

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You mean like a CTRL F? It just did a Google Search for me

Don't hit enter, just type out what you want, then scroll down to the very bottom. The top results will be google search, then bookmarks and history, THEN "On this Page". It's totally not intuitive.

Thank you. I searched for this feature yesterday but couldn't find it by myself.

Re: iPhone Sales Drop, and Apple’s 13-Year Surge Ebbs

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Post by studentrob »

zepto wrote: post #532
studentrob wrote: post #500

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> Most regular people I know enjoy Facebook I enjoy Facebook. I just see opportunity for something next-generation. Also, I disagree with the notion that Facebook will be fine forever as the dominant player in social networking. They are better off with more competition. Gates and Jobs are quoted saying that Microsoft and Apple's existence helped each other become better companies [1] [2], and helped get more useful…

I don't agree, but I am open to understanding more. I liked your examples of cars or iPods. I agree that as specific solutions there was not demand before the existed, however there was clearly demand for personal transportation and portable music players. What is the equivalent for portability?

> however there was clearly demand for personal transportation and portable music players.

I think that makes my point further. There is demand for social networks

I'll concede that portability may or may not be the next big thing for social networks. Let's speak more generally.

People want better social networks. They want to connect with friends more easily. To be honest, my Facebook feed is improving bit by bit, but it's still not as good or interesting as it could be. My perception is that Facebook is 100% focused on improving the feed, but without competition, we'll never have anyone thinking outside the Facebook box. Mark has the final say on certain strategies, and I think his vision is great, but his company would be even greater if there were another Mark.

Jobs and Gates fed off each other. Their efforts to market computers to the world helped each other's businesses grow faster than they would've grown alone. By borrowing each other's ideas, we got better products. And their employees were constantly on their toes. Google and Facebook are amazing companies and provide more services to their employees today than Apple and MS in the 90s.

However, the same energy isn't there to improve their core products. Google could be much better at machine translation across all languages, which is part of search, for example. In the future, I think they will be. Without another real competitor, they're free to work on whatever side projects please their employees. The core products miss out on advancements that may otherwise arrive sooner.

All of this is fine and I think tech will thrive regardless. The reason I write all that is I believe in churning up ideas from the bottom that might not otherwise find support. I don't think I'm the only one with this idea.

Re: iPhone Sales Drop, and Apple’s 13-Year Surge Ebbs

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Post by esun »

galistoca wrote: post #403
digi_owl wrote: post #350

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And that is where the vibrate comes in. the keyboard is of a known layout, and by marking by feel when you move from one key to the next you know where you are. This allows the keyboard to be operated without looking, much like how most people use a ordinary keyboard today once they are past the hunt-and-peck stage. A big reason for touch screens being a problem in many situations is that you have to actually look at…

I'm guessing you downvoted me because you disagree with my point of view. I'll just tell you this: I have been thinking a lot about the stuff you talk about here and even prototyped a hardware device to try out the idea. I had the same point of view (It would be nice to have an input device I can use without even looking) but after experimenting I realized this isn't the case. Also this "vibration" thing you're talki…

Back when I used blackberry phones I absolutely could use the keyboard without looking. They used slightly different shapes/intersections for each key and it was all muscle memory and little looking.

The touch screen keyboards are more practical in many ways but they can never truly replicate a physical keyboard.

(I long ago traded the fidelity of the actual keyboard for the convenience of a touch keyboard.)

Re: iPhone Sales Drop, and Apple’s 13-Year Surge Ebbs

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Post by studentrob »

bduerst wrote: post #507
studentrob wrote: post #330

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> This includes VR/AR, less someone else gets to the the brand reputation throne first (like HTC or Microsoft). I think HTC's got it for at least a year. It may continue longer. They'd need to do something wrong to lose the lead. MS Hololens is too expensive at the moment to get much reach. And I could make many comments about how Oculus/FB messed up a bit recently. However, I think everyone, including HTC, hopes tha…

Don't you think you're projecting? It's easy to romance competition, but I seriously doubt HTC hopes the OR finds it's feet. Just as its easy for Gates and Jobs to reminisce after the PC boom after the dust has settled, I doubt they were so romantic during.

> Don't you think you're projecting? It's easy to romance competition, but I seriously doubt HTC hopes the OR finds it's feet.

Sure, this is my opinion on the internet. I've no idea if the HTC and Facebook CEOs feel the same way about competition helping each other as Jobs [1] and Gates [2] said. But I imagine those at the top of massive organizations know a few things about being successful that might not be obvious to the rest of us. What Jobs and Gates said does ring true about their history.

Jobs explicitly pointed out that there was a toxic anti-Microsoft attitude at Apple when he returned, and getting rid of that was critical to their success [1].

> Just as its easy for Gates and Jobs to reminisce after the PC boom after the dust has settled, I doubt they were so romantic during.

That's also discussed in the Jobs/Gates interview. There were good and bad times, and historically speaking, they were not always so against each other. MS invested in Apple several times, and Apple took some risk partnering with them. Jobs pointed out Apple (really, himself) wasn't good at partnering with people, but Gates was, and he admired that [3].

[1] https://youtu.be/wvhW8cp15tk?t=23m42s

[2] https://youtu.be/wvhW8cp15tk?t=1h8m25s

[3] https://youtu.be/wvhW8cp15tk?t=1h24m6s

Re: iPhone Sales Drop, and Apple’s 13-Year Surge Ebbs

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Post by secfirstmd »

semi-extrinsic wrote: post #377
secfirstmd wrote: post #361

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Dam, I was just about to do the exact same thing... Hmm, now i'm kind of out of options. As after Samsung Galaxy note experience, I said I'd never buy Samsung again.

Typing this on a 3rd gen Moto G, it's also stock Android, cheap, fast and the "right" size. As in, big display, but I can still (just) hold it and type with one hand.

Had one for quite awhile, and while I like the size, I find it very slow :(
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