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Re: Waymo Premier

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Post by ErroneousBosh »

HDBaseT wrote: post #376
wcfrobert wrote: post #167

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Approximate monthly cost of owning a car in the city: Lease or loan: $350 Parking in city: $300 Car insurance: $180 Gas: $120 License/Registration: $42 (~$500 per year) Maintenance: $17 (~$200 per year) If you live in the city and you can afford not driving, please put that extra $1000/month into your brokerage or HYSA

If you're tying to budgetmaxx, why are we having a car payment on our total? Gone are the days of $500 dollar drivable shitboxes, although you can easily get cars in the US for under a few grand. Why you'd be penny pinching and taking a loan out is beyond me. You ideally don't want a loan for anything, but some may excuse a home loan...

Both of my Range Rovers cost under a grand, combined, although that's in the UK.

They cost pennies to tax and insure. They're a bit expensive to run, but they do stuff I can't easily do with something cheap to run like pull 3500kg trailers up mountains.

Re: Waymo Premier

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Post by ErroneousBosh »

officeplant wrote: post #247
cortesoft wrote: post #139

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The increased frequency of tire changes for EVs is not something I realized when I bought an EV. Those batteries are heavy, and put a lot of extra wear on the tires.

Another factor is that brake-regen is putting additional stress on two tires if it is a single motor car. So they get a lot of workout accel/regen if you aren't using your brakes as often and driving economically to regen as much power back as possible. Plus how fun it is to get going in an EV leads to a lot of extra tire wear. I've found that rotating my tires more often helps spread the wear out from having a singl…

I don't see why that would be worse than the very front-biased braking on conventional cars.

Re: Waymo Premier

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Post by JumpCrisscross »

ErroneousBosh wrote: post #458
JumpCrisscross wrote: post #39

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> Why not just get a monthly bus pass? It's less convenient, doesn't work nationally and isn't as fun?

If you're planning on taking a Waymo across country, it's going to cost more than 400 dollars.

> If you're planning on taking a Waymo across country

Nationally != cross country. A Waymo account would be useful to me in the Bay Area, LA, Phoenix and Miami. A bus pass is only useful in one place.

Re: Waymo Premier

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Post by officeplant »

cortesoft wrote: post #263
officeplant wrote: post #247

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Another factor is that brake-regen is putting additional stress on two tires if it is a single motor car. So they get a lot of workout accel/regen if you aren't using your brakes as often and driving economically to regen as much power back as possible. Plus how fun it is to get going in an EV leads to a lot of extra tire wear. I've found that rotating my tires more often helps spread the wear out from having a singl…

I can’t rotate my tires, because the front and back are different sizes. Luckily, I do have dual motor, at least…

Ah yeah, I avoid cars/vans I can't use in normal economic ways. I need them damn tires to last as long as possible. And base model trims for less shit to fail.

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Post by nradov »

viking123 wrote: post #485
tudelo wrote: post #442

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People will reply to you calling you crazy, but SF/bay is the only place I have ever experienced where many people will literally leave their cars unlocked because a broken window isn't worth the hassle. Yes, locking your parked car is a hazard here... and the reason is obvious.

When I read this kind of stuff I am always happy I live in a normal country/place - Singapore. Absolutely insane lmao. Must be fun sitting in your Waymo hitting some panic button and it gets blocked LMAO

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Re: Waymo Premier

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Post by Jblx2 »

echelon wrote: post #88
agumonkey wrote: post #68

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maintenance, petty car body degradations.. things gets pricey real fast

I've got 200,000 miles on my Toyota and it's only ever had oil changes, brake pads, and new tires. It'll probably make it another decade. Or two.

You should really think about changing out the engine and cabin air filters. And spark plugs. And unless you are driving 50,000 miles per year, I can't imagine the battery is going to last too much longer.

Re: Waymo Premier

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Post by bitpush »

baggachipz wrote: post #295
bitpush wrote: post #215

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I dont think you're using the term correctly. Charging money for product/service is not enshittification. If you insist on that, you're living in fantasy land. How did you go from "charge a fee for premium features" -> features degrade over time? Apple has been charging a ton of money for their products and AFAICT their products have been pretty good

You're right, I skipped a step/was unclear. Features will degrade over time for _non-subscribers_. They'll eventually wall it off so that you have to have a subscription. Then they'll start degrading the features for everyone (who has to be subscribed). Then they'll have a new tier and the process begins anew. Start with a subsidized product and delight users -> step 1. Prioritize the business by charging extra -> st…

> Features will degrade over time for _non-subscribers_.

I mean, duh? It isnt a gotcha. Do you expend resources in your life maintaining relationships / friendships with people that dont matter to you? Are you in touch with your high school best friend?

Poeple prioritize their limited resources, similarly companies prioritize their customers.

Your high school friend shouldnt say "baggazhipz has enshittified their relationship with me".

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Post by fragmede »

shafyy wrote: post #494
aprilthird2021 wrote: post #490

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I live in SF and I absolutely love so much about it, but here and especially in Oakland where I also lived for years, I'd welcome bringing back caning if it meant we could live as safely and securely as in Singapore

Caning is absolutely against basic human rights, so no. It won't make Oakland and SF safer, it will only make society more divided and worse off. Go ask and minorities like Indian slave workers how safe and secure they feel in Singapore...

Not really.

Ask them that vs in the UAE.

Re: Waymo Premier

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Post by runarberg »

nearlyepic wrote: post #503
seanmcdirmid wrote: post #413

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In the USA where transit in most cities sucks? Seattle is supposedly one of the best but you can’t get to work downtown most days without being harassed by a fent zombie.

I really don’t know who told you that Seattle has one of the best transit infrastructures in the country, lol. It’s not even close to New York or Chicago, nor any of the forward thrust cities (DC, Atlanta). Hell, the light rail isn’t even as good as Portland.

I suspect they may be thinking about growth here, since Seattle’s system has had a very impressive growth, and is improving at a rate no other city in the USA comes close. So in other words Seattle for sure has one of the best transit policy in the USA, however New York for sure has a much better system.

I do disagree with you vehemently about Seattle’s light rail being inferior to Portland’s. That may have been true 10 years ago, but it for sure is not true today, especially after the East link opened earlier this year.

That said, Your parent is wildly off the mark (and honestly quite reactionary) in describing harassment from fentanyl addicts. Such harassment is extremely rare, and in the few cases where it does happen it is a failure of public health policy, not transit and accessibility policy.

Re: Waymo Premier

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Post by rogerrogerr »

eightysixfour wrote: post #421
siren2026 wrote: post #355

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The issue is that it creates an incentive to maximize the cost of travel as the employee directly get miles based on the price. I see this all the time with employees/managers booking a 1000$ flight that will give them 10k miles instead of a perfectly fine 400$ flight that would only give them 4k miles.

Every travel system I have worked with at [big corps] required the cost of my flight to be within a specific range of the average for that route. I wouldn’t have been able to take a $1k if a $400 was available without an override by the person whose budget it was coming from. Most of them we couldn’t pay on our own card either, so no points from that, but I’m not aware of any way to block someone from adding their fr…

Mine makes us take the "least cost logical" option, but it only looks at flights that match your current search (airport, day, time window). So if you have a specific flight you want, it's usually trivial to concoct a search where that flight is the lowest cost in a window.
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