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Re: Meta launches Instagram, Facebook, and WhatsApp subscriptions

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You can accomplish "no ads" and arguably substantially less tracking without Premium, though, with (e.g.) firefox and ublock origin. The only downside is an occasional ignorable warning that you're "seeing interruptions".

How does that get money to the people making the videos I like watching?

They still get views and subscribers, which increases the popularity of the channel, making it more likely to get recommended.

Re: Meta launches Instagram, Facebook, and WhatsApp subscriptions

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You can accomplish "no ads" and arguably substantially less tracking without Premium, though, with (e.g.) firefox and ublock origin. The only downside is an occasional ignorable warning that you're "seeing interruptions".

Not when watching on an Apple TV.

Are we supposed to be shocked that one of the most locked down devices ever won't let you block ads?

Re: Meta launches Instagram, Facebook, and WhatsApp subscriptions

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It's very difficult to do business in Western Europe without Whatsapp. I have probably asked more than 60 people to switch to Signal and the social burden it introduces (i.e. asking a new acquaintance to install a new app) can have negative signalling effects (e.g. you don't adapt, create more work, why do you care so much about privacy, etc.) I personally abhore Facebook (and IG,Whatsapp) and don't want to use any o…

What's the problem with SMS? Why are people hesitant to just use that? It works on every phone...

Re: Meta launches Instagram, Facebook, and WhatsApp subscriptions

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Discord subscriptions seem to be working. People like to customize their profile (ie express themselves), even though profiles are not something frequently interacted with (that's the surprising part!) I have a server (for my game) with about 1000 people. Out of the 300 people logged in, 50 of them have custom profiles. So, it seems like a good idea for Meta.

i too noticed the similarities in approach between the two. with the chat portability and other eu-linked changes they have to play along with, meta would have a complicated future ahead with subsidising chat for everyone.

if this prevents them from adding privacy-harming things to whatsapp, the more power to them. but it certainly does not guarantee this behaviour.

Re: Meta launches Instagram, Facebook, and WhatsApp subscriptions

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> Guess how many of them will actually do it? That's how much they value your friendship then :)

But you all already have Instagram. If someone wants everyone else to sacrifice to suit them, that sounds like a selfish person and a selfish friend.

If your true friend can't use Instagram for any reason, you'll surely join their network, won't you?

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Trusting a server doesn't prevent it from being easily targetable.

Yes, it does. It's much harder to target thousands of servers instead of a single huge one.

And Big Tech are the one who host your account on thousands of servers versus federation where it lives on one. If that one server host gets sued or ddosed you will be unable to lose your account. Meanwhile Big Tech can withstand DDOS attacks and lawsuits.

Re: Meta launches Instagram, Facebook, and WhatsApp subscriptions

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Yes, it does. It's much harder to target thousands of servers instead of a single huge one.

And Big Tech are the one who host your account on thousands of servers versus federation where it lives on one. If that one server host gets sued or ddosed you will be unable to lose your account. Meanwhile Big Tech can withstand DDOS attacks and lawsuits.

You're mixing things up. Thousands of servers (i.e., federation) are private servers, not Big Tech servers. (Probably with some exceptions.) You can't easily sue or DDoS them all. You may not even be able to find them all.

The Big Tech single server will experience a lot more attacks, some of which it can't withstand. Related example: Apple App Store was forced to delete a hundred VPNs after the pressure of Russian government.

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