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Re: DuckDuckGo search saw 28% more visits after Google said people love AI mode

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Post by shimman »

heyjamesknight wrote: post #472
LtWorf wrote: post #447

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https://openai.com/it-IT/index/our-agreement-with-the-depart...

The Department of War is a customer, there's no handout here. The government does procure services from private firms, this isn't new or special.

Uhh, the entire contract is a form of corporate welfare. So yes, the DoW giving money to these companies is a handout.

Just because it benefits them doesn't mean it's not a handout, especially when said money could be used elsewhere for purposes that actually benefit everyone and not a dozen people living in SF.

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Post by wisemanwillhear »

osigurdson wrote: post #28

I actually like AI mode in Google. My main reason is if I just have a quick question it seems a lot quicker than logging into ChatGPT/Claude as I can just type it in the address bar. Of course DDG / others can do the exact same thing as they already have an AI mode. Maybe you can even set up ChatGPT as a search engine - not sure. The key for this use case is speed - it has to be nearly instant.

It takes me little more than a second to open a chat session with an AI. I spend way more time asking my question that pulling it up. All I have to do is type two characters in my address bar the browser knows which URL I want. That's like VI command speed. Two letters... ... the website loads within a second, the chat text box is focused and I make my request.

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Post by somewhatgoated »

epicide wrote: post #511
somewhatgoated wrote: post #497

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Spotify is a toxic shit company overall that is a general detriment to all musicians everywhere. If you care about music just a little bit you should stop using it today and directly buy music from the artists you care about.

Honestly, this is true for all streaming, not just Spotify. Stream if you want, but also buy albums from them if they offer it. Merch is even better. Hell, even if you... acquire the music files unofficially and go buy a t-shirt or poster, the artist is still probably getting way more than they ever would have from you streaming all their albums on a loop.

It’s true but Spotify has consolidated the market in a way that I think no other provider has managed - maybe Tidal or YouTube Music. Some musicians that I know personally don’t like Spotify but they feel they have to be on there or be invisible.

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Post by PaulHoule »

shimman wrote: post #520
PaulHoule wrote: post #505

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One character I find interesting is Ezra Klein from the New York Times who desperately wants to see something positive come out of markets and industry and has an enthusiasm for AI which is not shared by his audience. He struggles to understand that skepticism and I think that's bad for his project. At least he's not one of the many mooks who are doing ChatGPT-assisted (Grok-assisted?) blogging and boasting about it,…

The entire purpose of people like Ezra Klein, Derek Thomas, and the elite journalist + consultant establishment is to simply preserve the neoliberal order and make sure any questions regarding it are confined in a box they defined where the outcomes never address material needs of the people.

I think comparing Klein and Thompson is like comparing Chess and Tic-Tac-Toe. At the very least Klein patiently reminds Jewish people that they really can be the baddies if they choose to be.

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Post by CamperBob2 »

xigoi wrote: post #512
CamperBob2 wrote: post #510

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The fundamental technology is still the same, just with more fossil fuel burning. That's like saying the fundamental technology behind an Egger-Lohner Hybrid and a Prius are the same. Technically true, but if you use that truth as a basis for decisionmaking, you're doomed. A modern AI model wouldn't make such a foolish mistake, so you'd better not make it yourself.

Current AI models still make mistaKes all the time. https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_fullsize/plain/did:plc:allu5vs...

(Shrug) Ask a free chatbot model and get what you paid for.

Aside from that, please let me know when you find a machine or a human that never makes mistakes. I'd like to invest.

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Post by hilariously »

lukashoff wrote: post #484
data-ottawa wrote: post #139

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The AI product rollouts in the last two years have been some of the most aggressive and user hostile product rollouts in my entire life. All conventions and user centricity go out the window with AI feature launches lately. If you look at examples from the last week it’s stuff like posthogs opt-out training, Copilot training, or Google’s antigravity chat-app switch. I’ve had the worst customer experiences of my life…

One of the recent rollouts that really grind my gears was Spotify rolling out LLM explanations of songs. Which is the most useful wasteful piece of sh*t ever. Why would I want to get a theory of what is 174bpm and other random crap. It is insane, and I hate modernity and every single modern product that just shoves random LLM crap at you and pretend they are not AI-enabled.

Even the more open source apps are shoving ads for simple and obvious features, I went as far as to build my own entertainment system and it serves all my needs and I dont have to worry about the next time I click next I hear a FUCKING AD.

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Post by dlivingston »

somewhatgoated wrote: post #497
lukashoff wrote: post #484

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One of the recent rollouts that really grind my gears was Spotify rolling out LLM explanations of songs. Which is the most useful wasteful piece of sh*t ever. Why would I want to get a theory of what is 174bpm and other random crap. It is insane, and I hate modernity and every single modern product that just shoves random LLM crap at you and pretend they are not AI-enabled.

Spotify is a toxic shit company overall that is a general detriment to all musicians everywhere. If you care about music just a little bit you should stop using it today and directly buy music from the artists you care about.

Bandcamp is great. Albums are usually ~$10 for high-fidelity digital downloads, and ~$25 gets you a vinyl record + the digital download.

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Post by ThunderSizzle »

tardedmeme wrote: post #452
ThunderSizzle wrote: post #441

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Right, but that's because Google permits that. OP is saying Google should simply stop permitting advertising over the real answer.

Why would Google give themselves less money?

There's a lot of reasons, but it's probably how Google makes most of their money - brand names end up being high value ad targets - at least 6+ years ago when I worked in that sphere of things (ecommerce, primarily). It's legit extortion.

I guess that's why - because extortion is immoral. Eventually, those paying the protection fees will eventually find someone better to pay or will stop paying when the protection doesn't show up.

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Post by muddi900 »

godelski wrote: post #350
al_borland wrote: post #64

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Ads in Search make up a significant percentage of their revenue. It is also the gateway that gets people into the Google ecosystem. Ads make the money, but Search is still the consumer facing product that brings people to Google and keeps them there. It’s so ubiquitous people don’t even think about it or notice it anymore. I’m always surprised by how much people are still searching for stuff as we’ve moved from the o…

> but Search is still the consumer facing product that brings people to Google and keeps them there. And let's not forget, these are the same people that when searching for "eBay" will put an ad at the top of the results, linking to eBay, and then place eBay as the top search result. I've found it hilarious that every single search engine does the same thing. You can do it even in Apple's App Store too. (Not seeing t…

Well because you are not paying for ads.

You are paying rent. Alphabet and Meta own all the real estate of the web, and you have to pay them rent to survive.

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