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Tennessee man jailed 37 days for Trump meme wins settlement after lawsuit

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Re: Tennessee man jailed 37 days for Trump meme wins settlement after lawsuit

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Another huge problem with our times is that local media is completely hollowed out. Voter awareness was never amazing but now there is no local paper to highlight abuse or corruption. Every problem becomes a national problem with no accountabillity. Lots of people in the state I live in vote for their sheriff. I would be shocked if one in one hundred even knew who that was.

most local tv news stations being owned by two right-wing conglomerates doesn't help either

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Re: Tennessee man jailed 37 days for Trump meme wins settlement after lawsuit

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homophobia, of course, considering I myself am bisexual and have had relations with other women. Height and weight discrimination depends on what is considered height and weight discrimination. Saying you need to be x height or y weight to do something? That's safety. People saying they'd only date someone above x height or below y weight? I bit shallow but that's personal preference. Saying everyone above 200 pounds…

> People saying they'd only date someone above x height or below y weight? What about height and weight affecting career prospects?

Depends. Is there a reason to limit them (safety, they need to be big/small enough to do something, etc.)? if not, then it seems a bit discriminatory

Re: Tennessee man jailed 37 days for Trump meme wins settlement after lawsuit

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Police are trained to lie to you in the course of investigation so “they could choose not to do their job (by conducting an investigation)” doesn’t refute the notion that it’s their job to lie to you, it affirms it. It’s like saying “it’s not cops’ job to lie to you, some of them are dogs whose entire job is sniffing out cocaine with their extraordinary sense of smell”

It's like saying it's a pilot's job to wear a uniform. The uniform may be required by their employer, but it's not the job. A law banning pilots from wearing uniforms would not result in jail time for doing their job.

A job is a thing an employer trains you and requires you to do hth

Re: Tennessee man jailed 37 days for Trump meme wins settlement after lawsuit

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Report that he arrested someone? That's already public information.

Report that he committed misconduct - in this case, a clear civil rights violation. Are we playing dumb?

Report it to who? The Trump Administration? The arrest is public information already.

Re: Tennessee man jailed 37 days for Trump meme wins settlement after lawsuit

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Report that he committed misconduct - in this case, a clear civil rights violation. Are we playing dumb?

Report it to who? The Trump Administration? The arrest is public information already.

You are now repeating yourself. Scroll up.

Re: Tennessee man jailed 37 days for Trump meme wins settlement after lawsuit

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It's like saying it's a pilot's job to wear a uniform. The uniform may be required by their employer, but it's not the job. A law banning pilots from wearing uniforms would not result in jail time for doing their job.

A job is a thing an employer trains you and requires you to do hth

So if I proposed a law banning pilot uniforms, you’d say a reasonable response would be “Are we expecting jailtime for doing their job?”

Re: Tennessee man jailed 37 days for Trump meme wins settlement after lawsuit

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Their pension is funded by tax dollars, this doesn't change the incentive structure. You'd need to have it either impact their pension payments in a way that cannot be backfilled or more directly force the police officers themselves to carry liability insurance (far better). Of course tax dollars pay their salaries as well, but if an officer became uninsurable then it weeds them out eventually.

Right, but taking from their pension directly reduces their payout when they retire. Not sure what you mean by "cannot be backfilled"; the budget is the budget, and the tax dollars only go where the (non-police) elected officials say.

All in implementation I suppose, but typically pensions _must_ be fulfilled as they are a legal contract with the employees of the state.

If you take money out of a pension (typically illegal) or otherwise forgo payments, limit payouts etc, you must backfill those at a later date.

They're also treated very seriously by most state law, they're usually senior debt that takes precedence over pretty much any other debt a city/county owes. Really hard to get out from under.

Re: Tennessee man jailed 37 days for Trump meme wins settlement after lawsuit

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so the "meme" was a photo and a quote

A very bad taste quote in context. Not that it shouldn't be free speech but let's not pretend this guy did nothing wrong.

Like when Trump posts racist posts and then deletes it afterwards?

Re: Tennessee man jailed 37 days for Trump meme wins settlement after lawsuit

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A job is a thing an employer trains you and requires you to do hth

So if I proposed a law banning pilot uniforms, you’d say a reasonable response would be “Are we expecting jailtime for doing their job?”

What are you talking about? You asked “how is it the police’s job to lie to me?” and got an answer (it is). It’s not a hypothetical that relies on a thought experiment, it’s just a true statement. You can’t imagine your way into a world where it’s not the police’s job to lie to you.

Re: Tennessee man jailed 37 days for Trump meme wins settlement after lawsuit

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If you don't hold people accountable for removing the liberty of others without just cause, those who abuse their power will continue to run rampant.

Where does this idea come from that we somehow can't take power away from people without criminal punishment after the fact? Nobody should have this power, and then abuse of power wouldn't be an issue.

If you want to reform the justice system, more power to you, but while it exists the last people who should be exempt from its reach are those who wield its power in criminal ways.
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