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VS Code inserting 'Co-Authored-by Copilot' into commits regardless of usage

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Re: VS Code inserting 'Co-Authored-by Copilot' into commits regardless of usage

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Post by SturgeonsLaw »

matheusmoreira wrote: post #483
lkjdsklf wrote: post #477

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The torment nexus was built by engineers. Not management. It couldn't exist without engineers.

And engineers couldn't get rich themselves without the billionaires shelling out for them to build their torment nexuses. I want to get rich too. I want to live a good life, and provide for my family. I don't want to just survive. So I can't say I don't empathize.

Which would be fine if the only two choices were build the torment nexus or starve. But it's not the only source of income out there.

Re: VS Code inserting 'Co-Authored-by Copilot' into commits regardless of usage

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Post by pjmlp »

rsynnott wrote: post #26

One fascinating thing about the whole AI phenomenon is how incredibly hostile it is to _standards_. Whether something works properly, or is ethical, or is true, no longer matters at all; all that matters is "pls use our AI". Microsoft spent literal decades rehabilitating their reputation. And then set fire to the whole thing in an offering to their robot gods. And it's not just them. There was a time that Google care…

Yeah, even .NET is now plagued with AI, see AI dashboard on Aspire, AI components on Blazor, .NET upgrade assistant now being AI agent,....

VSCode hasn't yet been rebranded into VS CoPilot by pure luck.

Re: VS Code inserting 'Co-Authored-by Copilot' into commits regardless of usage

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Post by shaky-carrousel »

rsynnott wrote: post #26

One fascinating thing about the whole AI phenomenon is how incredibly hostile it is to _standards_. Whether something works properly, or is ethical, or is true, no longer matters at all; all that matters is "pls use our AI". Microsoft spent literal decades rehabilitating their reputation. And then set fire to the whole thing in an offering to their robot gods. And it's not just them. There was a time that Google care…

The industry spent decades preaching us about power savings, with Microsoft settings application lecturing about power saves and the update app programming them on renewables peak, only for... wasting gigawatts by forcing us to have copilot everywhere.

If Microsoft were consistent, which isn't, power saving mode would disable AI features.

Re: VS Code inserting 'Co-Authored-by Copilot' into commits regardless of usage

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Post by wren6991 »

dmitriv wrote: post #268

I am the person who approved this PR and would like to acknowledge and apologize for the mistake of turning this feature on by default without sufficient upfront validation. There was no ill intent by evil corporation, but rather a desire to support functionality that some customers expect of VS Code w.r.t. AI-generated code. As folks mentioned here - many similar tools do this as well. Obviously, it should not be on…

> There was no ill intent by evil corporation

I simply do not believe you

Re: VS Code inserting 'Co-Authored-by Copilot' into commits regardless of usage

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Post by freedomben »

dmitriv wrote: post #268

I am the person who approved this PR and would like to acknowledge and apologize for the mistake of turning this feature on by default without sufficient upfront validation. There was no ill intent by evil corporation, but rather a desire to support functionality that some customers expect of VS Code w.r.t. AI-generated code. As folks mentioned here - many similar tools do this as well. Obviously, it should not be on…

I just wanted to say, while I think this feature was a bad idea, I sincerely applaud your willingness to post here, knowing you'll get roasted. Seriously brave and commendable.

Re: VS Code inserting 'Co-Authored-by Copilot' into commits regardless of usage

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Post by Terr_ »

hirako2000 wrote: post #295
palata wrote: post #188

Earlier quoted context omitted.

To be fair, it was already done by bad managers long before.

I saw a trend of UX/UI designers coming with practice which I knew better were wrong. But they insisted. E.g hijack brosser native controls. Will never know whether they passed along some manager/PM commandements or were just incompetent.

> But they insisted. E.g hijack brosser native controls.

[Rant-Example] The goshdarn ticketing-system hijacks alt-f, so that instead of opening the File menu of my browser, and instead toggles the favorite-status of whatever ticket I happen to be viewing.

Re: VS Code inserting 'Co-Authored-by Copilot' into commits regardless of usage

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Post by zombot »

rsynnott wrote: post #26

One fascinating thing about the whole AI phenomenon is how incredibly hostile it is to _standards_. Whether something works properly, or is ethical, or is true, no longer matters at all; all that matters is "pls use our AI". Microsoft spent literal decades rehabilitating their reputation. And then set fire to the whole thing in an offering to their robot gods. And it's not just them. There was a time that Google care…

> all that matters is "pls use our AI".

If you look at the staggering amounts of money that have been put into the tech, this attitude becomes practically mandatory, in an inhuman sense. They have to get ROI, at literally any cost. And it shows.

Re: VS Code inserting 'Co-Authored-by Copilot' into commits regardless of usage

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Post by PufPufPuf »

dmitriv wrote: post #268

I am the person who approved this PR and would like to acknowledge and apologize for the mistake of turning this feature on by default without sufficient upfront validation. There was no ill intent by evil corporation, but rather a desire to support functionality that some customers expect of VS Code w.r.t. AI-generated code. As folks mentioned here - many similar tools do this as well. Obviously, it should not be on…

My issue with this: if my intention is to never have these "co authored by " trailers in my commits, this is a sudden breaking change. What's worse, it is not immediately visible to the user. Now I could look like I use a not-company-approved AI. That's absolutely unacceptable, this could cost people their jobs. The "bug" (or "metrics boosting feature", as PMs call it?) that it claims all commits including ones never touched by Copilot are just icing on cake.
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