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Ghostty is leaving GitHub

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Re: Ghostty is leaving GitHub

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Post by whalesalad »

colechristensen wrote: post #151
featherless wrote: post #117

I migrated my entire workflow onto a personal GitLab instance after the whole "pay a fee to bring your own bags to the grocery store" GitHub Actions pricing shenanigans earlier this year. Best decision ever. 100% uptime. 100% less stress with each of the product/pricing changes over the past few months. Was also able to build my own GitHub Copilot equivalent that auto-reviews MRs interactively. Highly recommend it.

Is GitLab pretty good these days? I remember quite a few years ago it having its own set of problems.

It’s a rails app from the early 10’s era think heroku dominance. therefore to run it you’ll need a dozen sidecars for things like redis or elasticsearch and others. it has all the fun ergonomics and bloated memory consumption of that stack as well. the all-in-one go based tools are probably better for a solo homelab style deployment (gitea etc)

Re: Ghostty is leaving GitHub

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Post by DANmode »

sudb wrote: post #140
DANmode wrote: post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> It does seem like it might, in general, be a very opportune time for GitLab (or another host) to publicly step up! In what way(s)?

As in, to present themselves as the new defacto git host, capitalizing on GitHub's actual + perceived lack of reliability

No, I understood that.

How? I want to partake in the thought exercise.

What more could/should GitLab, for example, be doing to capitalize?

Re: Ghostty is leaving GitHub

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Post by pxc »

theapadayo wrote: post #504
aforwardslash wrote: post #495

Im still waiting for... Basically anyone that has used TFS (what microsoft had/pushed before acquiring github) to do a similar post, detailing how they miss the tool original concept. I'm sitting down, don't worry about me.

> TFS (what microsoft had/pushed before acquiring github) It's still around. It's just called Azure DevOps now. I personally think it's great for what it does.

What are those strengths? I've worked with projects hosted on GitHub, GitLab, and Azure DevOps at my current job, and was generally not impressed with AzDO (mostly looking at CI stuff).

Re: Ghostty is leaving GitHub

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Post by mcphage »

sandbags wrote: post #243
devin wrote: post #129

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If anyone reading this is curious of their own, you can go to https://api.github.com/users/YOUR_USERNAME_HERE and fetch it. My ID is just over 10,000. Crazy to think of the journey that I've had in computing since I signed up for GitHub.

Surprised to find I am #79. I think that was down to being in a particular IRC channel when CW & co. were building it.

Nice, someone even lower than my #297!

Re: Ghostty is leaving GitHub

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Post by Rapzid »

gavmor wrote: post #398
arianvanp wrote: post #128

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And yet GitHub has felt the most dead it ever did. Less quality contributions. Less feeling of community. All the open source projects are struggling. They dont have a service usage problem they have a slop problem. Ban the slop and the platform will thrive

Is it September already?

Wake me up when...

Re: Ghostty is leaving GitHub

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Post by kstrauser »

skydhash wrote: post #511
estimator7292 wrote: post #78

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I'm still holding out hope for distributed and federated git forges. The only compelling reason for everyone to centralize on GitHub is collaboration on issues/PRs without everyone allowing signups on their self-hosted forges. That could be achieved without hosting every line of code everyone's ever written in the same crumbling infrastructure. It'll probably never happen. But it'd be really nice if it did.

> I'm still holding out hope for distributed and federated git forges. Do you know that you can just send a patch via email (assuming you're not using the gmail web client)? You can even save the diff on some hosting website and send the link via any text medium.

I say this as someone who actually ran mailservers for about 25 years, who can telnet to port 25 and type SMTP to send an email, and who is hugely found of plaintext: I'd rather quit coding than move to that workflow. I loathe every bit of the pipeline of getting a clean patch from machine A to machine B, where I control at most one of them, and having it come out the other side with the same SHA256 digest. I don't look down on people who prefer it: to each their own! But I'll never in a million years understand it. Say what you will about the GitHub-style PR process, and there's plenty to say about it!, but there's a reason that devs outside LKML and the *BSD mailing lists pretty much immediately leapt onto GitHub the moment it became widely known. It was a revelation.

Re: Ghostty is leaving GitHub

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Post by colechristensen »

whalesalad wrote: post #521
colechristensen wrote: post #151

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is GitLab pretty good these days? I remember quite a few years ago it having its own set of problems.

It’s a rails app from the early 10’s era think heroku dominance. therefore to run it you’ll need a dozen sidecars for things like redis or elasticsearch and others. it has all the fun ergonomics and bloated memory consumption of that stack as well. the all-in-one go based tools are probably better for a solo homelab style deployment (gitea etc)

Eh, it wasn't about the stack, it was the features over quality track they were taking for a few years there where what features they had were impressive (they really motivated GitHub to get off its butt and do some things) but there were plenty of experience and reliability problems.

Re: Ghostty is leaving GitHub

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Post by tom_ »

pathartl wrote: post #331
SwellJoe wrote: post #197

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Not always, but it was so long ago that it became that, younger folks could be forgiven for thinking so.

Idk, I'm in my mid 30's and I've never had a moment where I've been glad to see something on SourceForge.

For whatever it's worth, which is probably not much, I'm in my late 40s and I never really liked sourceforge either. Too many clicks to do anything (still true), and I didn't like cvs (also still true, but thankfully now irrelevant).

(My SF account dates from June 2004. I expect I was thinking about using it as version control for a FOSS project I was working on at the time, though I don't know why, as it seems SF didn't support svn until 2005. Maybe I couldn't find any better options? The pre-GitHub ecosystem was pretty bad! But, luckily, I ended up not having time for any FOSS stuff from about autumn 2004, so: problem solved. And when I next looked, in early 2010, everything seemed to be git+github, and all the better for it.)

Re: Ghostty is leaving GitHub

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Post by zhynn »

idan wrote: post #96
mitchellh wrote: post #26

I know this is ridiculously dramatic, but its the truth: I actually cried writing this blog post (tears hit my keyboard, I'm embarrassed to say). Nobody should cry over a SaaS, of all things. But GitHub has meant so much more to me than that (all laid out in the post). I have an unhealthy relationship with it. Its given me so much and I'm so thankful for it. But, it's not what it used to be. I don't know. We've been…

Hi there! Longtime fan and hubber here. It's okay to have emotions. I have similar emotions. I'm GitHub User 22723 which is effectively the same as you (considering there's ~180m GH accounts nowadays) My version of your post reads differently: "GitHub only gets better if people who give a shit stick around to make it better" Walking away would be easy. I felt that way when I left Heroku ~six years ago. I left that jo…

I found out today that I am user 6082. I have been using github since the rubyconf (railsconf? I can't remember) where it was announced. I loved octocat. I was a git fanatic. It has been extremely disappointing.

I am using fossil now. I kind of love it, just a sqlite file with a very trim binary to interact with it. I get all of my things that I want (wiki, forum, issues, docs, etc) all in one file.

But that's just for fun. At work we are still tied to Microsoft Github. Just typing that out feels dirty.

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