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Claude Code to be removed from Anthropic's Pro plan?

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Re: Claude Code to be removed from Anthropic's Pro plan?

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Post by lelanthran »

sroussey wrote: post #453
lelanthran wrote: post #447

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None of the companies I deal with (~40) are on the API. Some where, but that experiment lasted a month. Until they go public, we are all just guessing.

CC has such egregious API subsidies that it’s hard to not to leverage it unless the license tells an enterprise otherwise. Love the subsidized pricing while it lasts.

> CC has such egregious API subsidies that it’s hard to not to leverage it unless the license tells an enterprise otherwise.

It's hard to tell, honestly - about half the HN population will tell you that all the token providers are running inference at a profit when using the API and only the subscriptions are subsidised, while the other half will tell you that everything, including both the API and the subscriptions, are subsidised (i.e. running at a loss).

Re: Claude Code to be removed from Anthropic's Pro plan?

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port11 wrote: post #473
solenoid0937 wrote: post #438

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Anthropic is absolutely taken seriously in workplaces, what are you even talking about? No serious business uses Pro or Max, they are all on Anthropic API billing. In fact with this move it is plainly obvious that Anthropic is moving compute from prosumers towards enterprise.

I know of a very serious business that deployed Max to all of their developers. API pricing, from what I see, can become more expensive than just hiring another dev.

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Re: Claude Code to be removed from Anthropic's Pro plan?

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Post by helsinkiandrew »

simonw wrote: post #270
rideontime wrote: post #209

Anthropic’s “Head of Growth” claims this is a “test”: https://x.com/TheAmolAvasare/status/2046724659039932830 This does not explain the changes to documentation.

They later said: https://twitter.com/TheAmolAvasare/status/204672549859272297... > When we do land on something, if it affects existing subscribers you'll get plenty of notice before anything changes. Will hear it from us, not a screenshot on X or Reddit. If you don't want things like this spreading through screenshots of X and Reddit, don't run "tests" like this in the first place! (Also "if it affects existing subs…

> I need to know the pricing of Claude Code for NEW subscribers if I'm going to adopt it at a company with a growing team.

I agree, but can you really use Claude Code on the Pro plan as a full time developer, or professional 'knowledge worker' without hitting the usage limits fairly early in the day anyway?

Re: Claude Code to be removed from Anthropic's Pro plan?

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Post by user34283 »

jsLavaGoat wrote: post #436
anakaine wrote: post #342

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I just paid for Pro for the first time 24 hours ago. Its been great, but the limits are crazy. It's nice not dealing with ChatGPTs sycophantic gaslighting, and not having random bugs. That said, I seem to be caught in that 2% test if I open in a private tab. What nonsense. I wouldn't be paying for Claude if it wasn't for its quality abilities, which necessarily includes Claude Code.

I can easily hit the weekly limit on Claude even on the $200 plan. I have yet to ever hit a rate limit on Codex $100. And the results are almost as good. And don't get me started on Anthropic's extra usage scam.

With Opus 4.6 on the $20 plan the limits were bad, but at least you could do a short session.

I find that with Opus 4.7 I can do two messages. Once I had a short session with 4-5 messages and it consumed $10 in extra usage.

This relegated Claude to a backup option in addition to Codex, which has the better desktop app anyway, and much better usage limits.

I’m considering to even cancel Claude entirely.

Re: Claude Code to be removed from Anthropic's Pro plan?

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Post by ulimn »

helsinkiandrew wrote: post #523
simonw wrote: post #270

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They later said: https://twitter.com/TheAmolAvasare/status/204672549859272297... > When we do land on something, if it affects existing subscribers you'll get plenty of notice before anything changes. Will hear it from us, not a screenshot on X or Reddit. If you don't want things like this spreading through screenshots of X and Reddit, don't run "tests" like this in the first place! (Also "if it affects existing subs…

> I need to know the pricing of Claude Code for NEW subscribers if I'm going to adopt it at a company with a growing team. I agree, but can you really use Claude Code on the Pro plan as a full time developer, or professional 'knowledge worker' without hitting the usage limits fairly early in the day anyway?

I think it's more about how they approach their users in general that is the problem here.

Re: Claude Code to be removed from Anthropic's Pro plan?

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Post by curtisblaine »

stellalo wrote: post #421
IgorPartola wrote: post #332

What a way to ruin goodwill with the very community they are trying to court. I am on a Pro subscription to use with Claude Code, but it sounds like the days of using it are numbered. I guess I will be trying the latest offering from OpenAI and Google tomorrow and if they are satisfactory I might just switch. Moreover, I have been recommending Anthropic's API solutions up to now to friends and clients. Based on this…

> I guess I will be trying the latest offering from OpenAI and Google tomorrow and if they are satisfactory I might just switch. If Anthropic’s move is confirmed, my guess is other coding agents providers might end up making similar moves

This is the definition of cartel

Re: Claude Code to be removed from Anthropic's Pro plan?

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Post by qingcharles »

helsinkiandrew wrote: post #523
simonw wrote: post #270

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They later said: https://twitter.com/TheAmolAvasare/status/204672549859272297... > When we do land on something, if it affects existing subscribers you'll get plenty of notice before anything changes. Will hear it from us, not a screenshot on X or Reddit. If you don't want things like this spreading through screenshots of X and Reddit, don't run "tests" like this in the first place! (Also "if it affects existing subs…

> I need to know the pricing of Claude Code for NEW subscribers if I'm going to adopt it at a company with a growing team. I agree, but can you really use Claude Code on the Pro plan as a full time developer, or professional 'knowledge worker' without hitting the usage limits fairly early in the day anyway?

Just the Pro Plan Claude Code on its own? Maybe you could last a full day on just using Sonnet. Maybe one Opus dab in the morning to plan your Haiku/Sonnet day?

I have Pro Claude, Plus GPT and Pro Gemini. When one runs out I switch to another project on the next LLM. If I really need a task finished I'll restart it on another LLM, but I'm loathe to do that as it eats tokens just getting back up to speed.

Re: Claude Code to be removed from Anthropic's Pro plan?

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Post by jltsiren »

helsinkiandrew wrote: post #523
simonw wrote: post #270

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They later said: https://twitter.com/TheAmolAvasare/status/204672549859272297... > When we do land on something, if it affects existing subscribers you'll get plenty of notice before anything changes. Will hear it from us, not a screenshot on X or Reddit. If you don't want things like this spreading through screenshots of X and Reddit, don't run "tests" like this in the first place! (Also "if it affects existing subs…

> I need to know the pricing of Claude Code for NEW subscribers if I'm going to adopt it at a company with a growing team. I agree, but can you really use Claude Code on the Pro plan as a full time developer, or professional 'knowledge worker' without hitting the usage limits fairly early in the day anyway?

It depends on the kind of work you do.

I'm in the academia, and Claude's performance in my field could be described as a very fast junior grad student. When I use Claude Code, I typically spend a few hours figuring out what needs to be done exactly, and describing it in sufficient detail. Then Claude does it in 30 minutes, while an actual student would need days. And then I spend anything from minutes to days evaluating the results, depending on if it needs to be tested with real data and how much weirdness those tests uncover.

But I also have other work to do beyond guiding the automated grad student. Which means my Claude Code usage rarely exceeds 1–2 hours/week.

Re: Claude Code to be removed from Anthropic's Pro plan?

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Post by stingraycharles »

rzk wrote: post #515
2001zhaozhao wrote: post #206

Apparently it's just an A/B test. Legit LMAO moment, speedrunning reputation destruction to your entire userbase just to test a question whose answer you can probably already guess. --- > For clarity, we're running a small test on ~2% of new prosumer signups. Existing Pro and Max subscribers aren't affected. > When we launched Max a year ago, it didn't include Claude Code, Cowork didn't exist, and agents that run for…

> If the subscriptions are unprofitable, then just communicate honestly, raise the price or lower limits for new subscribers transparently, and grandfather in existing users. This. Why do so many companies fail to get this? Anthropic's user base, in particular, is intelligent enough to understand their constraints.

I mean, if you look at the Claude subreddits, the general consensus is that Anthropic and OpenAI are money hungry corporate devils that are here to enslave all of us, and everyone should get unlimited everything on Max x20.

I think you may be overestimating the willingness of people to understand Anthropic’s concerns.

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