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Iran-linked hackers breach FBI director's personal email

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Post by saxonww »

xpe wrote: post #470
kingleopold wrote: post #444

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"A witty saying proves nothing." ― Voltaire 1767 Tytler's quote is trying to say too much. It might be acceptable as historical commentary, but it carries little weight to me; it seems overly confident about what the future might hold.* Tytler died in 1813. We have learned much since then: much about human nature, institutions, experimentation, statistics, evidence, constructing good theories, and governance.** Sure,…

It's not a Tytler quote anyway, and as mentioned by others it's demonstrably false.

https://web.archive.org/web/20110723192744/http://www.lorenc... https://freakonomics.com/2009/01/our-daily-bleg-what-quotes-...

Re: Iran-linked hackers breach FBI director's personal email

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Post by totetsu »

Teknomadix wrote: post #483

Iranian. Not bloody likely! Try Israeli-tied propagandists. Poke the hornets nest much?

Aren't most exploits that get used, shared through black markets anyway? So Saying Xcountry-linked hackers, is just saying who ponied up the bitcoin to pay for the attack?

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Post by marcosdumay »

phtrivier wrote: post #408

I'd feel obliged to add some "but, her emails..." reference. But it feels million years away. It's interesting to wonder how you get out of a spiral of incompetence and border-line (to be polite) corrumption at the highest level. Putting those people in charge was quick ; sure, a future administration could put them out quickly enough ; but how long will there be decently skilled people willing to take those position…

> Put differently: can a liberal democracy organize a "just" version of a purge?

This is how all of them started.

But once you have a liberal democracy, people will refuse another purge. For very good reasons.

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Post by convolvatron »

epsteingpt wrote: post #499
kingleopold wrote: post #444

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The whole reason the US founding fathers are amazing is that they proved him concretely incorrect. US will celebrate 250 years of democracy this year.

what better way to celebrate the democracy by combining it with a celebration of the birthday of the Great Leader, with a soviet style military parade and an admonition that any protest will be met with the harshest of consequences.

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Post by SmirkingRevenge »

1234letshaveatw wrote: post #454
kstenerud wrote: post #99

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Iran has been preparing for this war for 40 years. So has Israel. They will engage in a battle of supremacy over the Middle East. Both want the USA knocked out so that the Americans can't use their influence there anymore (both consider the USA a nuisance). As soon as ground troops land in Iran, it's over for the USA. As it is, oil and goods shipping via the Persian Gulf and the Red Sea will be controlled by Iran for…

The corpses of Irans’s leadership have us right where they want us

It's relative. We're in a pretty bad spot relative to where we were before the attack, and so is the world economy.

The Iranian regime is doing much better so far, relative to where they should be after a joint military attack from the US/Israel and maybe even relative to where they were just a few months ago.

The previous Ayatollah was 86 and had multiple bouts of pancreatic cancer. He was on deaths door, Iran was destabilizing with bouts of protest and repression, the regime itself suffered major military blows, and a potentially rocky and fractured transition was imminent.

Thanks to the war, the regime survived a transition, and seems consolidated around the son of the former Ayatollah, who's entire family was killed by our strikes, and the US seems largely impotent as Iran chokes off a large portion of the worlds oil supply and strikes at energy assets in the ME.

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Post by blurbleblurble »

epsteingpt wrote: post #499
kingleopold wrote: post #444

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The whole reason the US founding fathers are amazing is that they proved him concretely incorrect. US will celebrate 250 years of democracy this year.

It'd be hilarious if it was a fiction, some bitter comedic cautionary satire

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Post by bananalychee »

_heimdall wrote: post #434
bergoid wrote: post #429

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>I'd feel obliged to add some "but, her emails..." reference. HRC's secret email server and the leaked Kash Patel emails couldn't be more different. The first one is, in the words of a federal District of Columbia judge: "one of the gravest modern offenses to government transparency". [1] The second one is the malicious leaking of some private emails. These emails are frankly none of our business (unless you are part…

Not sure why this is being down voted. There is a difference for sure between hosting your own email server and using it for official government communications and having your own personal email address used for personal communications. The issue that seemed to completely disappear related to the use of Signal messenger for official white house communications seems more aligned to the email server issue. It was repor…

HN is overrun by partisans whose majority does not care about factual interpretations of current events and flags level-headed comments in favor of cheap shots, double standards, hyperbolic misconstructions, and ad hominem. I don't think it's difficult to be critical of the government without resorting to such low-brow commentary, but it is what it is. I once offended some people by comparing HN to Reddit, but the lines are getting more blurred by the day.

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Post by dijit »

phtrivier wrote: post #408

I'd feel obliged to add some "but, her emails..." reference. But it feels million years away. It's interesting to wonder how you get out of a spiral of incompetence and border-line (to be polite) corrumption at the highest level. Putting those people in charge was quick ; sure, a future administration could put them out quickly enough ; but how long will there be decently skilled people willing to take those position…

Sorry, as much as I despise Trump (though I'm thankful it caused Europe to wake up to the idea that the US is an unreliable ally); "Her emails" were:

A) Used for Official business as secretary of state

B) Full of national security strategically important decisions.

C) Improperly secured.

FBI directors personal email feels less cutting in that context.

Breaching my personal email (or my own mail server, I host one) will tell you literally nothing about my employer except perhaps the conversation from when I joined and my own employment contract.

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Post by hluska »

kergonath wrote: post #512
kingleopold wrote: post #444

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> the result that a democracy always collapses over loose fiscal policy, always followed by a dictatorship. Except, of course, that this is historically wrong. Transitions from democracy to dictatorship are common, but I cannot think of one that happened because of "loose fiscal policy".

If the Central Intelligence Agency’s definition of ‘loose fiscal policy’ is good enough, Pinochet’s rise is a good example.

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Post by hluska »

epsteingpt wrote: post #499
kingleopold wrote: post #444

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The whole reason the US founding fathers are amazing is that they proved him concretely incorrect. US will celebrate 250 years of democracy this year.

I know that math makes it harder to come up with political zingers but if there are two civilizations; one lasted 150 years and the other lasted 250 years the average is 200.
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