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All countries publicly understate the max range that their missiles can go. This is generally understood in the defense community.
What's the point? Naively one would think it is the opposite.
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Iran launched unsuccessful attack on UK's Diego Garcia
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I don't know which country you're from, but in most countries, "our troops may get bombed if we join this war" is a very strong public argument against joining the war. Just look at Trump's latest attempt to enlist his "allies" into sending warships to the Strait of Hormuz, and what a resounding success it was.
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Maintaining peace is not the same as restoring peace. Perhaps the American executive should have extrapolated the consequences of their actions using a model of the real world and not the fever dream they seem to be in. I am all for the Europeans standing their ground and not letting themselves get dragged into a conflagration not of their desiring nor of their making.
Trump and co are finding out that FAFO goes both ways. Much to the cost of all of us, Americans, Iranians, Europeans and the rest of us.
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#523Earlier quoted context omitted.
> On the other hand if Iran was to fire a missile at continental Europe I would hope that the consequence for them would be to be flattened Iran have been attacking uninvolved NATO member Turkey for a while now and nothing happens. The USA is already fully engaged into this war while Europe can hardly deal together with Russia, it is doubtful they'd do anything even if it rained down on their territory
It should be noted that Iran has publicly stated that the attacks on Turkey were false-flag attacks launched by Israel.
It should be noted that Iran has claimed to have sunk the USS Lincoln and to have captured several US soldiers, among other creative interpretations of reality
To take the claims at face value, local governments that has an interest to shift blame on Israel, do not believe Iran, due to their own radar data
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This is an attack on Turkish territory regardless if there's a US base, and Iranian missiles usually miss the bases anyway. Turkey is led by a strongman leader and these are very sensitive to acts of public humiliation. So that's unwise when thinking about any negligible strategic advantage they may gain from these attacks
Iran is Turkey's neighbor and had relatively good relations for very long time, even with the strongman it doesn't make a shred of sense to change this. Especially for USA which has a tendency to back stab Turkey in any occasion (They could not get away from the time when Turkey did not allow them to invade Iraq from north, the previous BS war)
Hence my point that Iran's "strategy" is very questionable
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Those were mostly UAVs, you can see the abysmal aiming ability in Israel, where they have largely stopped aiming at facilities and moved to cluster warheads to maximize civilian hit ratio in large metropolis
I wonder if they consider it a payback for Israel targeting civilians.
their targeting of Jews worldwide or Israeli citizens wildly predates this war and into the 90s.
Examples being the AMIA bombing or their mercenaries in Hezbollah firing rockets at Kiryat Shmona well through the 90s
Re: Iran launched unsuccessful attack on UK's Diego Garcia
#526The article kind of downplays the most interesting elements. Not an expert, but to my limited understanding: * I think this is the longest-range use of a ballistic missile in anger, possibly ever? * This seems to reveal previously-unknown range of Iranian ballistic missiles and, if true, could touch basically all of Europe?
I think the article downplays the element that the attack probably achieved its goal which was not to actually hit something at Diego Garcia, but to show that thing 2500 miles from Iran are potentially targetable by Iran. That starts conversations like the one here and in other fora about whether or not Iran would limit themselves to military targets (Russia doesn't as an example) and if not how could Europe and its…
> whether or not Iran would limit themselves to military targets
This question has long been answered
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one missile fails, the other is intercepted your conclusion: US will pull those resources back?
As a defender, you only need to fail once. Blow up a few B-2s on the ramp and that becomes a event with unlimited bad potential.
By the time it takes the missiles to reach there, the planes could be in the air.
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> Wow, it is clear that you are trolling and acting as a propagandist. Asking a question about how Mahsa Amini died is not trolling or propaganda, its not even a statement, but a question. > You do know that you can be against violence, hatred and bigotry in general, and not just that of your ‘enemies’, right? I know that, but can you please answer the question, it is you who brought up the matter of critical thinkin…
> Asking a question about how Mahsa Amini died is not trolling or propaganda, its not even a statement, but a question.
Indeed, it is trolling, even if you think it's not.
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So you are embarrassed that your leaders don't want their soldiers to die in a war started by another country without providing any semblance of justification? ...I'm just glad that European politicians take their soldiers' lives more seriously than the court of public opinions. Well, at least some of them. That's the mark of being an adult.
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Hah, I'm so used to thinking about these missiles as conventional that I forgot it actually means Iran was building the capability to nuke Europe. Or more accurately - to deter Europe with nukes while they export terrorism globally.
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From your own source: > Joint Chiefs Chairman Gen. Dan Caine has been advising President Trump and top officials that a military campaign against Iran could carry significant risks, in particular the possibility of becoming entangled in a prolonged conflict, according to two sources with knowledge of those internal discussions. "that a military campaign against Iran could carry significant risks, " specifically "coul…
Your comments make it clear that you are a propagandist and maybe even a bot. I assume that you can comprehend English, but are choosing to be obtuse. If that is not the case, and you still cannot understand the warnings, ask Claude or some other AI to help you.
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