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4Chan mocks £520k fine for UK online safety breaches

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Re: 4Chan mocks £520k fine for UK online safety breaches

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UK fining an American company for this is absurd. 4Chan isn't breaking any laws. You can make it illegal for your own citizens but you can't regulate a foreign business. UK citizens should fight for the right to free speech though.

> You can make it illegal for your own citizens but you can't regulate a foreign business The us does that regularly. There's thousands of companies that cannot do business with entities from countries like China or they can face criminal charges in US. A former company I had as a client, EU based SaaS faced this.

But to be clear, those businesses wanted to make money from the US market. In the case of 4chan, they don't make money from the UK. Somehow, this important distinction keeps getting ignored. You want to sell in the UK market, you have to follow their rules. Same with the US. Somehow the British government doesn't seem to understand this.

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> An example in microcosm: a local village suffered road flooding due to failed maintenance of water pipes Your example only compares against the UK past. It has zero relevancy because it says nothing about relative change against other countries. Anecdotally for the USA, I went to New Orleans last year, and I was stunned at the rotting infrastructure. Coming from New Zealand, the USA seems to be trying to copy the t…

I was in New Orleans last year and everything looked brand new. The whole city was basically rebuilt 15 years ago.

New Orleans in particular is highly variable in what you see, depending where you visit.

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I didn't see it that way. It seems like NGOs and IGOs have been pushing for internet restrictions for a long time. There has suddenly been a push for age restrictions allegedly because of abuse material. This happens annually. Some international group claims there needs to be something draconian abolishing encryption, or some other privacy invading measure to stop child abuse and help security. The laws are 1000s of…

> It seems like NGOs and IGOs have been pushing for internet restrictions for a long time. There has suddenly been a push for age restrictions allegedly because of abuse material. This happens annually. we’re seeing some good evidence the most recent pushes were secretly funded and directly written by meta, the corporation. [0][1] according to the link in there, > Rep. Kim Carver (R-Bossier City), the sponsor of Loui…

Reading the original research and stripping away the motives implied by the bot, the data is aligned with another interpretation. Namely that Meta is going with the flow and using the opportunity to push for regulation that impact its interests less, while affecting its competitors more.

The original research is riddled with baked in conclusions, and has not been verified independently. Its also mostly LLM generated.

Re: 4Chan mocks £520k fine for UK online safety breaches

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The UK I don't think has arrested anyone for running a website.

The police in the UK have arrested more than 12,000 citizens for online speech. https://www.forbes.com/sites/steveforbes/2025/09/09/people-a...

I would suggest taking that stat with a big grain of salt:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tB3WVygAM8I

Re: 4Chan mocks £520k fine for UK online safety breaches

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Not like good ole America where you can get arrested for mocking Charlie Kirk.

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> Nobody was arrested.

You are entirely incorrect.

https://www.cnn.com/2025/12/17/politics/retired-cop-jailed-o...

Re: 4Chan mocks £520k fine for UK online safety breaches

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The police in the UK have arrested more than 12,000 citizens for online speech. https://www.forbes.com/sites/steveforbes/2025/09/09/people-a...

I mean yes and no. Looking through that article, one of the examples is "The wife of a conservative politician was sentenced to 31 months in prison for what police said was an unacceptable post." But if you dig into what happened - https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cp3wkzgpjxvo "The wife of a Conservative councillor has been jailed for 31 months after calling for hotels housing asylum seekers to be set on fire." This…

Most of those cases in that number aren't even online posts, but stalking and harassment through other means of communication.

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Ofcom is currently threatening a Canadian forum that exists to help people with depression. Ofcom claims that geoblocking blocking the UK is "insufficient": > I've also gone back to Ofcom explicitly telling them the UK was now geoblocked (twice now) and I received a response that this was insufficient. Source: https://www.reddit.com/r/LegalAdviceUK/comments/1rk690v/i_ru... Ofcom really thinks that their laws apply gl…

Not saying this is the same, but there are depression forums where the admin / mods promotes and sells “permanent solution” kits.

People really should turn to medical professionals and not internet strangers for help.

https://www.ofcom.org.uk/online-safety/illegal-and-harmful-c...

https://youtu.be/lUsO8ny_Dhg?si=FOPqCS2NKOZBQKg8

Re: 4Chan mocks £520k fine for UK online safety breaches

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> One can agree or disagree with this but Europe's actions are far more understandable if you see where they're coming from. I think you're falsely attributing this to WW2. Free speech is simply just not part of European culture in the way that it is a part of american culture. The ideal of "free speech" regardless of how well that ideal is implemented in practice is something that is much more instilled in US cultur…

Worth pointing out the modern American conception of freedom of speech is super recent. It only really became a thing in the 1970s. Before then, restrictions on porn, film, even written materials on controversial subjects like abortion could and were regulated.

The 1st Amendment was over 200 years ago, basically a few decades after the US was founded. There was always a rather large libertarian faction.

Re: 4Chan mocks £520k fine for UK online safety breaches

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The UK is no longer part of Europe.

Oh sorry did it shift into the mid Atlantic or something? You need to learn the difference between Europe the continent and the EU the political union. The two are not interchangeable. The British continued to be European post 2020

On an article talking about regulations, assume the context is the latter.
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