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Re: New iPad Air, powered by M4

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Post by lossyalgo »

NetMageSCW wrote: post #442
bubblewand wrote: post #301

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Weird, mine’s usually good for a month at least if it’s got a decent charge. I just picked mine up off a table in front of me and it hasn’t been plugged in for at least two weeks, instantly on, 82% charge. It’s an earlier Pro 12.9” though, I think the last pre-M-series model, though god I hope they didn’t screw up the battery life that badly in the M series. If it’s not a regression in the newer models, my top 3 gues…

4) Bad app that is tricking iPad into using battery all the time.

Yeah something weird going on over there. Even my cheapo 2025 iPad with A16 chip ($300) lasts a few weeks if I don't use it - plenty of other non-Apple devices could really learn something about how power-saving mode is supposed to work.

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Post by musictubes »

thewebguyd wrote: post #187
pjmlp wrote: post #162

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Ideally Apple would finally do their Surface/2-1 with iPads, but Apple being Apple, rather sell an overpowered tablet, and a Mac laptop to go alongside with it Some places even do a bundle "discount".

I don't think even Apple knows what they want to do with the iPad. I could buy the "companion device" niche for a while until iPad OS 26 came along, which took away most of the "touch first" multi tasking and replaced it with a model that heavily favors mouse and keyboard use. I actually use my iPad less now since the update, because I still primarily used it as a tablet, I don't even own the magic keyboard/trackpad…

Apple has no idea what the iPad is for but somehow they sell 20 million of them a year...

Apple has been very clear what the iPad is "supposed" to be. It is a touch screen computer. Between its form factor, touch first OS, built in camera, and possible cellular capabilities it can do a lot that a Mac can't do. Something as simple as walking around with it and handing it to someone like a clipboard opens up a million uses in the field that would be much more awkward with a traditional laptop. Artists drawing directly on the surface, musicians playing with touch controls, etc. all take advantage of how the iPad works.

If you insist on using programs and workflows designed for laptop computers the iPad will never make sense to you. I use AUM, Drambo, and a variety of other soft synths and effects on my iPad in conjunction with my analog synths. It's a very different experience than a regular computer.

Re: New iPad Air, powered by M4

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Post by malshe »

bottlepalm wrote: post #336
malshe wrote: post #326

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Comments like yours just go on to show how narrow the worldview of many HN users is. Just because you don't know how people are using their iPads doesn't mean iPads "can't do anything". It defies common sense, too. If iPads couldn't do anything, why would people buy them consistently? I can imagine people buying them once because they don't know any better. But iPad is more than 15 years old now.

I know exactly how it's used. I said in my comment it's used by kids to watch YouTube. By age 4, 58% of children have their own tablet. And YouTube is the #1 app for iPad. This is the majority use case, next to collecting dust on a shelf, or gifts for people's aging parents. https://www.commonsensemedia.org/sites/default/files/researc... You don't think an M4 chip, amazing, screen, form factor, quality - all for chil…

> An amazingly powerful, affordable device that is totally locked out of being used for general purpose computing. That doesn't irritate you?

I'm with you on this one. Hopefully, Tim Cook's successor will take a different approach.

Re: New iPad Air, powered by M4

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Post by Tade0 »

musictubes wrote: post #520
mort96 wrote: post #195

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It's great, sure. But why release an M4 iPad Pro when essentially no software can make use of the processor power improvements since 2018?

No software? DaVinci Resolve? Affinity Designer? Final Cut, Procreate, AUM, Logic Pro etc etc etc. As the processors get more powerful more demanding software can be made for it. Running multiple physical modeling AUVs along with FX loops eat up clock cycles. Final Cut Camera on iPhones along with Final Cut on an iPad allow for full multi camera controls and recording from 4 different iPhones with ProRes and log shoo…

Procreate for one is not that CPU hungry. My SO's 4th gen iPad runs it just fine.

Re: New iPad Air, powered by M4

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Post by Tade0 »

baby wrote: post #189
Havoc wrote: post #117

To what end? I genuinely don’t get the purpose of these high end processors in a tablet. Like more power is nice but what would I do on it that needs it? Serious gamers mostly steer clear of Apple. Video editors presumably use desktops/laptops. Browsing doesn’t need power. Video watching doesn’t need it. Programming on iPads is cumbersome. Who is the target audience that gains from this?

Ive been using mine since 2018, the ipad pro. If you do any drawing then it’s a no brainer, and that’s why I got it in the first place. Then it was so good that I used it to travel and to watch videos in bed in place of my computer. If I need to work I’ll take my laptop though. IMO if you don’t use your laptop to work it doesn’t make sense to use a laptop instead of an iPad.

Banks see it as a mobile device and thus place restrictions on certain things like payment limits.

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Post by Brajeshwar »

rossant wrote: post #338
upmind wrote: post #244

I owned a few iPads as a kid but as I get older I see less and less reason to buy one. It kinda sits in the middle of usefulness of a phone and laptop for me. Larger screen than phone yes, but can't run any of the applications I need from a laptop. If it had MacOS, I'd be much more inclined to buy it.

Thank you for making me feel old. The first iPad came out when I was doing my PhD. When I was a kid, Tim Berners-Lee was inventing the web.

Haaa! I also paused reading at “as a kid.”

I bought the 1st Gen iPad for my daughter while I was in the States for work (2010). Not a phone, big enough, and can be Internet-connected with a SIM. Lots of Games, and later my feeling of having bought something amazing was that my daughter learnt to speak brilliant English with Peppa Pig, way before her formal school started.

Palo Alto Stanford Shopping (USA) › FedEx to a Relative in Maine (USA) traveling to Manipur (India) › he trimmed a local SIM to fit the Nano-SIM tray › Happy Daughter on her 2nd Birthday.

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Post by zadikian »

al_borland wrote: post #508
zadikian wrote: post #396

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Facetime too. I shared a laptop with my wife for like 2 years, so it was an ok experience, but we noticed those little things.

I wonder if this was a design choice, so if I’m on the computer and a call comes in for them, I can let them know and maybe hand it off? The alternative would be they would have to answer on their phone (assuming they have an iPhone, which may not always be the case), then use handoff to get it on the Mac.

Could be, but I've never wanted that. I just answer it on my iPhone or my desktop Mac.

Re: New iPad Air, powered by M4

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Post by shepherdjerred »

BashiBazouk wrote: post #251

I have a 6 with cracked glass and won't buy another one until 3rd party browsers can release without webkit. The net is an awful place without uBlock, which I am reminded about every time I try to surf with the ipad...

https://apps.apple.com/us/app/wipr-2/id1662217862

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Post by bigyabai »

NetMageSCW wrote: post #488
jadenPete wrote: post #420

Apple’s hardware teams are seriously running laps around their software teams. Which is odd, because historically, it’s been the opposite. Until iPad OS actually becomes capable for complex work and multitasking, I can’t see what the benefit of strapping such a powerful chip to an iPad is.

iPad OS is already capable of complex work and has been capable of multitasking since it was iPhone OS v1.

ChromeOS is "capable of complex work" on $200 tablets. And it can compile C++, run Windows games and use full-fat web browsers.

In a head-to-head comparison with real desktops like macOS or Windows, iPadOS can be generously described as a no-show.

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Post by mauflows »

snypher wrote: post #364
mauflows wrote: post #216

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Music production is the killer feature that benefits a lot from CPU performance. I only recently bought an iPad for the first time this year after realizing this was feasible. I’ve always preferred digital music workflows, but hated dealing with a laptop and DAW. iOS supports AUv3 plugins and cross app audio, so it’s pretty much a full DAW experience (I use loopy pro). The form factor forces AUv3 devs to design smart…

>hated dealing with a laptop Can you expand on this, as im having a hard time comprehending. At the least, a laptop is a tablet with a built in stand :). How is a laptop hard to deal with?

I pretty much agree with all the people who replied. VSTs with heterogeneous interfaces, windowing issues, and having to use a mouse all just get in the way of making music for me. Obviously you wouldn’t produce / master some serious but if you’re jamming it’s leagues better imo
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