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Iran's Ayatollah Ali Khamenei is killed in Israeli strike, ending 36-year rule

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Re: Iran's Ayatollah Ali Khamenei is killed in Israeli strike, ending 36-year rule

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Post by joshstrange »

throwawayheui57 wrote: post #156
tejohnso wrote: post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There would likely be millions of Americans celebrating the murder of their current president, should that happen. It doesn't mean it's reasonable, right, just, or civilized, nor would it indicate that it was a unanimously supported action.

They threw the justice and civility when they murdered people on the street. That ship has sailed and the party who's responsible for this escalation is the government.

It’s sad that I can’t be sure which government you are talking about right now, Iran or the USA.

I’m aware the scale of “murdered people on the street” is stark and so you are almost certainly talking about Iran but what ICE is doing (and the clear extrapolation) fits your comment IMHO.

Re: Iran's Ayatollah Ali Khamenei is killed in Israeli strike, ending 36-year rule

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Post by Alifatisk »

What is happening to this world. There is so many intense events happening in a such short time. I feel like we are truly living in weird times. Trumpet is out here deciding the fate of countries future for his own good. Now, it so happens to be something that benefited the Iranians. But I do not think he did it for the people directly, rather a side effect.

I feel like I've lost the touch of which direction our future is going now, the worlds geopolitics is fluctuation too much. Maybe I should remind myself that feelings also gets amplified by constant stream of news and social media. I am certain 1990s, 2000s and early 2010s was worse times.

Re: Iran's Ayatollah Ali Khamenei is killed in Israeli strike, ending 36-year rule

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Post by cess11 »

jordanb wrote: post #498
sega_sai wrote: post #471

I have no sympathy for Khamenei, but, if that is allowed we should not be surprised if Denmark prime minister is next?

Weirdly Europe and even Canada seem to be completely onboard with all this..

Norway, Finland and Spain protested the attack on the basis of international law.

The swedish government was more like 'eh, they had it coming', which does not bode well for us in the long run.

Re: Iran's Ayatollah Ali Khamenei is killed in Israeli strike, ending 36-year rule

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Post by throw0101c »

TacticalCoder wrote: post #510
Cipater wrote: post #454

I work with and know a lot of Shia (non-Iranian) Muslims and listening to them talk about this assassination I'm convinced that the likelihood of attempted terror attacks against the US has increased significantly. The non-Iranian part is key. Millions of muslims around the world viewed the Iranian theocracy as the only power in the world fighting for Islam. They are devastated.

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>> Millions of muslims around the world viewed the Iranian theocracy as the only power in the world fighting for Islam. They are devastated.

> They are devastated but they are were totally quiet on the unarmed thirty thousands+ protesters the islamist iranian regime killed in a matter of days a few weeks ago.

One person's protestor is another's insurrectionist.

See also the folks on January 6: (now-pardoned) patriots trying to 'stop the steal', or crazies trying to overthrow the government?

Re: Iran's Ayatollah Ali Khamenei is killed in Israeli strike, ending 36-year rule

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Post by TacticalCoder »

penguin_booze wrote: post #416
thomassmith65 wrote: post #12

The Iranian diaspora around the world is celebrating. Here's the scene in Berlin: https://youtu.be/NSbx_0mtk80?si=MJ_Bfvx8gVd1P1mm They've waited a very long time for this moment!

Do enjoy the moment while it lasts. Because the next ruler will be an American stooge. This isn't going anywhere, like the other "revolutions" in the middle east.

> Because the next ruler will be an American stooge.

And if that's the case, do you think that American stooge shall do worse than Khamenei who ordered his islamist guards to slaughter 30 000+ unarmed iranian protesters in a matter of days?

What can be worse than religious extremist sending their fanatics into hospitals to finish the wounded?

I'm in the EU and I see cars with iranian flags honking. Someone posted a video or iranians celebrating: not bearded men and veiled women (which is a sign of religious extremism: there are many muslims that do not have the islamist beard and many muslim women who aren't veiled) but regular people, celebrating.

I don't doubt that many bearded men and veiled women are very sad today.

But I side with the free iranians in exile who are celebrating what may be the end of four decades of sharia law ruling their country.

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Post by throwaway2037 »

suoloordi wrote: post #173
programmertote wrote: post #2

Either this will end in a fractured state with different factions OR another Ayatollah will be in charge. Just my guess from seeing similar stories play out in other countries though....

Iran is not like other countries in the region. Despite its shortcomings, it's a cohesive society. I'm certain that there will be no fracturing and a central authority will emerge.

    > Iran is not like other countries in the region. Despite its shortcomings, it's a cohesive society.
This is a weird comment. I would also describe Jordan, Oman, UAE, Bahrain, Qatar, and Saudi Arabia as cohesive societies.

Re: Iran's Ayatollah Ali Khamenei is killed in Israeli strike, ending 36-year rule

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Post by markus_zhang »

Cipater wrote: post #454

I work with and know a lot of Shia (non-Iranian) Muslims and listening to them talk about this assassination I'm convinced that the likelihood of attempted terror attacks against the US has increased significantly. The non-Iranian part is key. Millions of muslims around the world viewed the Iranian theocracy as the only power in the world fighting for Islam. They are devastated.

The "good" part is that Sunni Muslims probably won't have the same feeling, or do they?

But I agree with the assessment. I'd definitely avoid large public events. Darn the world is becoming more and more chaotic and we are just waiting for China to put up the last piece to make it into 19th Europe.

Re: Iran's Ayatollah Ali Khamenei is killed in Israeli strike, ending 36-year rule

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Post by ETH_start »

LastTrain wrote: post #79
TulliusCicero wrote: post #62

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But in the case of an actual dictator who murdered thousands of protestors it is reasonable, right, just, and civilized. Shed no tears for the deaths of tyrants. They would happily see you and any other threat to their illegitimate power put six feet under.

Yes our president has only needlessly murdered two innocent US citizens so far. As he has told us countless times, he would like to be a dictator.

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Re: Iran's Ayatollah Ali Khamenei is killed in Israeli strike, ending 36-year rule

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Post by shell0x »

Alifatisk wrote: post #523

What is happening to this world. There is so many intense events happening in a such short time. I feel like we are truly living in weird times. Trumpet is out here deciding the fate of countries future for his own good. Now, it so happens to be something that benefited the Iranians. But I do not think he did it for the people directly, rather a side effect. I feel like I've lost the touch of which direction our futu…

Exactly just because the dictator was horrible doesn’t give the US the right to attack other countries. I see no difference between Russia, Israel, America. They’re all hostile countries which should be sanctioned for human rights violations and violating international law.
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