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Post by philipallstar »

hypeatei wrote: post #332
philipallstar wrote: post #310

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Calling people fascists for any reason has completely removed the real meaning of the word. Putin did the same to incentivise the war in Ukraine, and in the US, if you're not the media companies benefitting from endlessly stirring people up to a frenzy with that word, you're the LLM trained on their very narrow input texts.

> Calling people fascists for any reason Luckily it's not just "for any reason" then! There are plenty of examples, where do you want to start? I'll start with a few: Steven Miller saying they have plenary authority, Bovino claiming a city was "theirs" after rolling up with CBP/ICE goons, JD Vance saying federal officers have "absolute immunity", CBP officers showing up in force at Gavin Newsom's rally, and the pardo…

> I guess the fascist thing really struck a nerve... I wonder why.

Oops - you've done it again.

Re: Mac mini will be made at a new facility in Houston

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Post by deadfoxygrandpa »

Saline9515 wrote: post #376
shimman wrote: post #358

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Dude come on, the US already has a social credit system. Where do you think China got the idea of credit scores from? Try getting a good loan in the US if your credit score is under 400. You're barred from having certain jobs if you don't have a good credit score. Get some new talking points, you're like 40 years out of date.

The difference with China is that the US credit score is limited to your banking activities.

what do you think china's credit system is like?

Re: Mac mini will be made at a new facility in Houston

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Post by coldtea »

ryandrake wrote: post #243
adamgordonbell wrote: post #84

Apple is very tied to Chinese manufacturing in a way that is hard to replicate in US. They will agree to make some high margin simple to assemble thing in the US to appease government, but if it goes as well as last time, they will stop as soon as they can. In china they were often able to iterate on designs and have custom screws and other parts made and ramped up in very short times. Something about having the whol…

> Something about having the whole supply chain in one place I can't find the source but I thought I read somewhere that the major manufacturing cities in China are all geographically laid out like giant assembly lines. The companies that process the raw materials are located mostly inland, then the companies that form those raw materials into metal and plastic stock are next door, and then the companies that take th…

>I can't find the source but I thought I read somewhere that the major manufacturing cities in China are all geographically laid out like giant assembly lines

There was a great article from like 20 years ago - it quoted Jobs too on that. I remember Forbes or something like that, maybe this "“How the U.S. Lost Out on iPhone Work” — The New York Times (Jan 21, 2012)" (cant open it now)

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Post by TheOtherHobbes »

chii wrote: post #444
decimalenough wrote: post #439

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It's not about the specific degree the leaders hold. Thanks to Communism, China (and the Soviet Union before it) had a profound belief that society can be engineered , and that people and nature are both raw material that can be shaped to fit the needs of society. The US, on the hand, is obsessed with individual rights, and any sort of collective action that threatens those rights is extensively litigated. This is re…

> society can be engineered and the hidden implication is that there's a correct trade off to be made (because engineering is about trade offs). So what happens to those people whose gotten the bad end of the deal? If china builds a damn, the villages downstream gets moved (with small compensation that is not commensurate with the value of the dam being made). It's also why the high speed rail in california is costin…

That's better than a culture that sees every transaction solely in terms of corporate profit and doesn't consider the existence of trade offs at all.

The result is that far more people get far worse deals far more of the time. Healthcare, the jobs market, education, climate damage, grift in high places - it's all the same issue, and a lot of the problems are rooted in denial of reality on spurious "economic" grounds.

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Post by TheOtherHobbes »

xtn wrote: post #337
superxpro12 wrote: post #325

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For all the progress, you lose me immediately with the "social credit" system. If there was really true 'progress', then you wouldn't need a one-party system that suppresses all dissent. Only need to look to the recent changes in Hong-Kong and the obviously hostile takeover of a democratic government to see how "pure" these changes really are.

There are bad things in China, but there is no "social credit" system being used.

There's a social credit system everywhere. It's called "money". It's quite literally and explicitly a credit system that rewards certain behaviours and castes and punishes and disempowers others.

The fact that everyone in the West is used to it doesn't alter the fact that it's social engineering at scale and not a law of nature.

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Post by lukan »

adamweld wrote: post #328
pear01 wrote: post #314

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That guy is so annoying his subpar analysis has become such a trope. America used to build things too. Lawyers have been part of the founding and fabric of both societies. Trying to reduce China v America to engineers vs lawyers is so reductive it's just mind blowing this keeps getting repeated.

I've only listened to one interview with Dan Wang, but I understood him to be particularly talking about the politicians, not the country as a whole. I can't speak for China, I've only visited a few times, but in the US it's true that an overwhelming number of successful politicians were previously lawyers. Which is not a good thing IMO.

"I can't speak for China, I've only visited a few times, but in the US it's true that an overwhelming number of successful politicians were previously lawyer"

I can't speak for china either, so I looked it up and indeed, Xi Jinping studied chemical engineering and his predecessor Hu Jintao worked as a hydraulic engineer before becoming a politician.

Well in germany we had Merkel as a doctorate in quantum chemistry (but she never worked as an engineer, but neither did Xi Jinping).

I certainly would prefer politicians with some engineering background, unless they use their skills to manufacture a total state surveillance and control machine.

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Post by TheOtherHobbes »

palmotea wrote: post #479
m4ck_ wrote: post #396

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It's not just loans and banking. Bad credit severely limits your housing options, even rooms for rent are running credit checks these days. Some employers too, even in roles where you aren't directly handling money or anything close to it.

The difference between a social credit score and a credit score is when you criticize the president, your social credit score goes down, but your credit score stays the same.

The people who have been stalked and apprehended by ICE for online criticism of what ICE is doing might not agree.

As might visitors who are being asked to show five years of social media history to make sure their views are politically acceptable.

Free speech is over. If dissent isn't being actively punished - the current push for deanonymisation is coincidental, no doubt - at the very least it's heavily throttled algorithmically.

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Post by mr_toad »

ThePowerOfFuet wrote: post #510
brudgers wrote: post #491

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The US can't even zone a residential neighborhood without lawyers and special interests jamming things up for decades through endless impact studies and litigation. Famously, Houston has no zoning.

The downside is that then nothing prevents a fireworks factory, or tannery, or whatever, right in the middle of a residential area. Or, as they say everything is bigger in Texas, why not think big... an oil refinery!

A bit of quick searching reveals that Houston does have many building regulations, for example restrictions of hazardous enterprises. It’s just that the regulations aren’t quite as black and white as zoning laws.

https://kinder.rice.edu/urbanedge/houston-doesnt-have-zoning...

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