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Post by yardstick »

adaml_623 wrote: post #506
cryptoegorophy wrote: post #499

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Cancel phone subscription and have family. I don’t understand how you still have family? You don’t have any emergencies?

Did people "have emergencies" before the invention of mobile phones? Your question is silly

I don’t think it’s a silly question.

Before mobile phones, there were public phone booths. Along motorways there were often call boxes. There’s little to none of that anymore.

Also before mobile phones, if you had an accident in a remote area you were at the mercy of someone passing by and noticing you. Today, modern cars can call 911 on your behalf along with your location without you even being conscious. Or if you don’t have a car that does this, then your cell can be used. Let’s not also forget iPhones calling for help when they detect you had a fall at home.

Yes emergencies existed before mobile phones. I contend that the use of mobile phones has led to better outcomes when an emergency happens. I also admit mobile phones will have caused some of those emergencies (distracted driver etc).

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Post by raw_anon_1111 »

Forgeties79 wrote: post #513
raw_anon_1111 wrote: post #465

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59% say ICE is too aggressive - meaning that 41% approve https://www.foxnews.com/politics/fox-news-poll-59-voters-say...

No it means 41% don’t necessarily think they’re too aggressive.

Isn’t that agreeing with him? HN loves to make excuses for the voters. If killing someone isn’t too aggressive what is? Killing and eating his kids? They think that is fine

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Post by GorbachevyChase »

gregoryw3 wrote: post #449

I’m not super sure about the specifics but having taken a 5G class, the professor made it quite clear that due to the latency and bandwidth requirements of 5G, precise tracking is required to allow towers to correctly do beam forming. If anyone wants to look at the future of 5G (well ORAN) here it is: https://gitlab.eurecom.fr/oai/openairinterface5g When talking about the 5G system, cell towers can request a users es…

So when 5G was being deployed to the city I was working for and I could see permits, it struck me as really peculiar just in terms of economics because the density of towers needed is extremely high compared to the previous generation. As a user, I really can’t tell a difference in quality of service. So it seemed like an extremely large capital investment for no gain, which makes me think that the purpose of 5G is some dual use that is not public knowledge. That the intent was to create a high accuracy tracking system for us seems plausible to me given how much money is funded into other surveillance activity.

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alt227 wrote: post #502
bloomingeek wrote: post #495

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You could also turn your cell off/on as needed. Sure you can be "seen" when it's on, but when off, it's my understanding you can't.

You cant turn modern smartphones off. You may think you can, but you cant. What you could do is put them in a faraday cage if you wanted.

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Post by alt227 »

Alive-in-2025 wrote: post #507
alt227 wrote: post #502

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You cant turn modern smartphones off. You may think you can, but you cant. What you could do is put them in a faraday cage if you wanted.

Please explain what this means, I can turn my cell phone off. How are they able to ping my phone if it has no power? Or are you saying even when you turn it off there's still some part of it that's energized or something?

You are correct and as others have said, the phone can run functions while it looks like its off. This was one of the main reasons manufacturers killed removable batteries. You can put your phone onto standby, but you cannot power it off completely.

There are also conspiracy theories that claim the last 10% of battery is reserved for tracking, so that when your phone says its out of battery and wont turn on, it still has plenty of power left to ping tracking data say once per hour or something. I dont push those theories, but judging by what Snowden released all those years ago I wouldnt be surprised.

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Post by Forgeties79 »

raw_anon_1111 wrote: post #522
Forgeties79 wrote: post #513

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No it means 41% don’t necessarily think they’re too aggressive.

Isn’t that agreeing with him? HN loves to make excuses for the voters. If killing someone isn’t too aggressive what is? Killing and eating his kids? They think that is fine

Let me be very clear: I think ICE is wildly out of bounds and killing/terrorizing people. I do not support them. I do not support the republican party or Trump. Quite the opposite.

All of that being said: that is how polling works. You are inferring too far beyond the actual question posed. For instance, somebody could think they are acting too aggressively, but completely agree with the final outcome/objective. Or somebody could disagree with the objective, but think that they’re not acting too aggressively because perhaps they’re sympathetic to LEO’s having to make snap judgments in the field (an excuse I do not agree with but many do).

I think the general sentiment that the question tells you something about how people support or don’t support ICE is valid, but the exact number and statement you’re throwing out cannot be assumed and is likely wrong, even if it’s maybe close. And that’s not even getting into how different people will have different ideas of what “too aggressive” even means.

59% think they’re being too aggressive, assuming the polling is decent quality, means you can credibly say 41% do not think ICE is being too aggressive.

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Post by dotancohen »

PlatoIsADisease wrote: post #451
jll29 wrote: post #429

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I do not use WhatsApp, Instagram, or FB. You pay a price (we miss many party invitations, only one friend consistently emails us and FB everyone else), but it's worth it. Recently spoke to a colleague in Italy that told me he hates WhatsApp, but is forced to use it because the school of his kids in Rome use it as sole means to communicate, despite this being a legal violation (public organizations in Europe must use…

I bought into something like this, removed all social media for 2-3 years. I lost so many connections to people and it seemed to set me back multiple years on my goals. I thought it would make me more productive, instead my userbase got cut in half. I'm never doing that again. Huge mistake.

I've lost connections with "internet friends" but I see my real friends more often than does the average person my age. I wouldn't have it any other way.

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Post by raw_anon_1111 »

Forgeties79 wrote: post #526
raw_anon_1111 wrote: post #522

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Isn’t that agreeing with him? HN loves to make excuses for the voters. If killing someone isn’t too aggressive what is? Killing and eating his kids? They think that is fine

Let me be very clear: I think ICE is wildly out of bounds and killing/terrorizing people. I do not support them. I do not support the republican party or Trump. Quite the opposite. All of that being said: that is how polling works. You are inferring too far beyond the actual question posed. For instance, somebody could think they are acting too aggressively, but completely agree with the final outcome/objective. Or s…

Again so it’s not okay they are shooting people. But it’s fine if the outcome is that they are dead?

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Post by trimethylpurine »

raw_anon_1111 wrote: post #463
trimethylpurine wrote: post #401

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Democrats (the South) always said that this country was always about slavery. They used that rhetoric to argue FOR slavery for decades after it was abolished. This is all documented in supreme court cases from the 18th century on up through the civil war. Some of the founding fathers argued as attorneys in some of those cases in fact, stating firmly that slavery was always illegal in the United States. Republicans (L…

The constitution literally said that slaves were counted as 3/5th of a person - the actual founding documents. How can you say this country wasn’t about slavery from the beginning?

I don't think you read my comment. I mentioned this exact thing.

The 3/5 vote was part of how the North protected from the South using greater numbers (voting in place of their slaves) to remove the expiration date that the North placed on slavery as a concession.

The North wanted to ensure that slaves would in fact be released as soon as possible, without losing the South as an ally against the impending invasion from England.

Had they not reduced the voting ability of the South, the South would have simply removed that expiration date and kept their slaves. (They kept them anyway, that's why the civil war happened.)

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Post by Forgeties79 »

raw_anon_1111 wrote: post #528
Forgeties79 wrote: post #526

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Let me be very clear: I think ICE is wildly out of bounds and killing/terrorizing people. I do not support them. I do not support the republican party or Trump. Quite the opposite. All of that being said: that is how polling works. You are inferring too far beyond the actual question posed. For instance, somebody could think they are acting too aggressively, but completely agree with the final outcome/objective. Or s…

Again so it’s not okay they are shooting people. But it’s fine if the outcome is that they are dead?

How on earth are you getting that from what I’m saying?
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